BTZ42Read: it has happened before

Steven Koteff steviekoteff at gmail.com
Tue Mar 15 11:20:05 CDT 2016


It implies (the rocket demands) a response that is so immediate (and so powerfully evocative of the unconscious) it is egoless, and kind of holy.


> On Mar 15, 2016, at 4:40 AM, Kai Frederik Lorentzen <lorentzen at hotmail.de> wrote:
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> On 14.03.2016 20:15, Steven Koteff wrote:
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>> But what's also important is the immediacy/primality of the vagueness. The "screaming" is the immutable character to whatever kind of screaming it is. And it is absolute, and hits you all at once. Fills you. It's not just a rocket screaming. It's all screaming. That's what hits you first. In a primal, absolute, Jung would say archetypal way. It hits your ancestors before it hits your you. 
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> This reminds me of something Keith McMullen once wrote here:
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> > Since we know Pynchon is familiar with James Hillman, JH's concept of
> "seeing-through" or "psychologizing" might be in accord with what Scott is
> suggesting. For Hillman "seeing through" is the act of looking beyond the
> manifest surface of our metaphors, thoughts, ideas, beliefs, politics,
> ideologies, technologies, conflicts, etc., to the archetypal backdrop. To
> see the Gods reflected in such. To see the archetypal reality made literal
> in our 'real' meanings and V2s. To realize that just because a V2 can ruin
> your day doesn't mean it is not metaphorical, nor that it has origins
> outside the pale of the human imagination (or human psyche) and its very
> structure and dynamics. <
> https://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l&month=9807&msg=29285&sort=date
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