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Wed Mar 16 06:19:53 CDT 2016

Yes, seems necessary to me to start (if one hasn't already) feeling some of
the richness of P's ambiguities of meaning in a phrase like Beyond the
Zero. P signals it with the word "Beyond", No?

Zero, placeholder and Nothing. Associations ala Tracy and Eckhart

Wallace Stevens "The Snow Man" :
For the listener, who listens in the snow,
And, nothing himself, beholds
Nothing that is not there and the nothing that is.

Whole books now on Zero--a good lit scholar named J. Hillis Miller has done
a late career one, in English but evidently published in France, not
available at any library within 600 miles of me and very interesting maybe.

Beyond the Zero: The Conditions of Uncertainty in Gravity's Rainbow
Google's N--Gram charting of the uses of the word in all the books they
have internalized is...interesting. Rises steadily in the sixties....has
another little bump up in the early seventies, (GR Feb 1973)
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Beyond the Visible Universe : from a New Space-time ... - Page 31
<https://books.google.com/books?id=DdJfiDynRo0C&pg=PA31&dq=beyond+the+zero&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj-1LWpqcPLAhUGXh4KHRb9BFs4ChDoAQhKMAc>
<https://books.google.com/books?id=DdJfiDynRo0C&pg=PA31&dq=beyond+the+zero&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj-1LWpqcPLAhUGXh4KHRb9BFs4ChDrAQhLMAc>
https://books.google.com/books?isbn=0973051531
Stoyan Sarg
<https://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1&safe=active&sa=N&biw=1324&bih=876&tbm=bks&tbm=bks&q=inauthor:%22Stoyan+Sarg%22&ved=0ahUKEwj-1LWpqcPLAhUGXh4KHRb9BFs4ChD0CAhMMAc>
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2002 - ‎Preview
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‎More editions
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The analysis of CL node dynamics in Chapter 2 and 4 of BSM leads to the
conclusion that CL space contains distributed Zero Point Energy (ZPE). In
fact we may distinguish two kinds of distributed ZPE in every point of the
observable space

Zero Point energy can also be seen as an entropic point.  Zero-point energy
is, by definition, a minimum energy below which a thermodynamic system
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermodynamic_system> can never go.[14]
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-point_energy#cite_note-army-14> Thus,
none of this energy can be withdrawn without altering the system to a
different form in which the system has a lower zero-point energy. [16]
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-point_energy#cite_note-16> Nevertheless,
there have been numerous claims of devices capable of extracting usable
zero-point energy. None of these claims has ever been validated by the
scientific community.[17]
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-point_energy#cite_note-17>

On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 3:55 PM, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:

> Isn’t the zero in western numbers from Arabic mathematics?
> In Taoism and Tibetan Buddhism the concept of emptiness or nothing is not
> just negation. Emptiness is the substrate for all form and movement -
> No-thing-ness the necessary context for thing-ness and vice versa.
> Western science seems to need zero but also seems to have no way of
> definitively measuring experiencing or perceiving nothing; is it
> space-time? What is that? It is always both fundamental and elusive even
> via science. Behind the Void of the Hebrew Genesis there is a voice about
> to say “Let there be”. Not so different from Taoism. Steven Hawkng claims
> the mathematical language of physics can dispense with that voice, but the
> mystery seems undiminished to me, the difference linguistic rather than
> substantive.
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 15, 2016, at 6:44 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > From the wikipedia article on Zero. 0
> >
> > Records show that the ancient Greeks seemed unsure about the status of
> zero as a number. They asked themselves, "How can nothing be something?",
> leading to philosophical and, by the Medieval period, religious arguments
> about the nature and existence of zero and the vacuum. The paradoxes of
> Zeno of Elea depend in large part on the uncertain interpretation of zero.
> >
> > We know that such talk will come up later in GR. The Vacuum by name.
> Nothing as concept. Beyond "nothingness' throughout and esp near the end
> @p700+
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 6:18 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > i think Right On, brilliant.
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 5:46 AM, Kai Frederik Lorentzen <
> lorentzen at hotmail.de> wrote:
> >
> > On 15.03.2016 09:39, Ian Livingston wrote:
> >
> >> Then there is this pe-orgasmic pause:
> >>
> >> “There is no way out. Lie and wait, lie still and be quiet. Screaming
> holds across the sky. When it comes, will it come in darkness, or will it
> bring its own light? Will the light come before ar after?
> >>
> >> But it is already light," GR 5.
> >>
> >
> >>
> >> Are we beyond the zero at this point? What, exactly, is the zero?
> >>
> >
> >
> > Could it be that the zero refers to behaviorism? Pavlovian thought is
> via Pointsman very present in this first part of the novel. In this
> context, - please correct me if I'm wrong! - the one (1) refers to the
> successful conditioning, manifest in a concrete behavior. The zero (0)
> refers to the state where the conditioning is extinguished and the behavior
> is not shown by the test subject anymore.  The formulation "beyond the
> zero" then, perhaps, indicates a new phase in human history where the
> thanatoid forces of society start, metaphorically speaking, to go beneath
> our skin. Where science becomes "big science" (and data "big data"), and
> even political mass murder, so very common to history, enters a
> qualitatively new level with the Holocaust, as well as with Hiroshima.
> Sentences like "It is too late", or "It has happened before, but there is
> nothing to compare it to now", would fit such a reading. What do you think?
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> “Astrologically the beginning of the next aeon, according to the
> starting-point you select, falls between A.D. 2000 and  2200. Starting from
> the star “0“ and assuming a Platonic month of 2,145 years, one would arrive
> at A.D. 2154 for the beginning of the Aquarian Age, and at A.D. 1997 if you
> start from star “a 113.“ The latter date agrees with the longitude of the
> stars in Ptolemy’s Almagest“ CGJ, Aion, 1959, 94n.
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
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