[John Bailey]

Yes, the way fictions flesh out our fantasy worlds is essential here (as is
the way They take advantage of it). Further developed in the Chums of
Chance and elsewhere in AtD.
On 27 Mar 2016 11:25 am, "ish mailian" <ishmailian at gmail.com> wrote:

> sorry, should say, an unlit gas lamp. Perhaps they were in use when
> the fantasy. nevertheless, as I read it P is mixing the texts and
> films and fantasies. I guess one can smell the Holocaust in it too,
> but I don't. Nor do I smell the sizzling flesh.
>
> On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 8:13 PM, ish mailian <ishmailian at gmail.com> wrote:
> > The gas, it would seem, is from a dark, that is, an unlit though still
> > open, so the gas is wafting over the street, of proper Sherlock Holmes
> > London. The mention of the author seems to shift us to the period when
> > gas lamps were common. Surely they were not in use as late as the time
> > Pirate is managing the fantasy.  So we can't be certain if we are in a
> > book, a film, a fantasy, or all at once. It can't be reversed.
> >
> >
> https://hudsonhousemysteries.wordpress.com/2012/01/16/the-health-risks-of-street-lighting-during-the-victorian-age/
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 7:17 PM, John Bailey <sundayjb at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I distinctly remember the adenoid section from my first reading of GR
> >> decades ago, mainly because the inclusion of an adenoid seemed so
> >> *abject*. Why not a familiar and easily isolated body part? Fiction
> >> has no shortage of crawling hands or swiveling eyeballs or disembodied
> >> brains etc but this tiny, slimy thing I'd never seen let alone
> >> imagined outside a body swollen to gargantuan proportions... I think
> >> my mind wanted to turn away from the image. Too gross, too excessive,
> >> too impactful. A fine introduction to the rest of the book, then.
> >>
> >> On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 5:33 AM,  <kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:
> >>> Adenoids are different from tonsils - they're higher up, behind the
> nose.
> >>> Swollen adenoids are generally a problem in childhood, after which
> they tend
> >>> to shrink. When swollen, they hamper breathing, and so they may need
> to be
> >>> surgically removed.
> >>>
> >>> Some thoughts on the giant adenoid:
> >>>
> >>> It first appears to Pirate, some time between 1935 and 1939,  together
> with
> >>> "the unmistakable smell of gas." Gas - giant adenoid preventing either
> a
> >>> giant child or mass numbers of children from breathing - could be a
> >>> vision/premonition of the kids who will die in the Nazi gas chambers.
> "The
> >>> Army shows up in full battle gear with bombs full of the latest deadly
> gas."
> >>> But the giant adenoid cannot be gotten rid of, communicated with or
> >>> understood. Eventually, Lord Osmo is able to ignore it and focus on
> the Novi
> >>> Pazar beat. Osmo dies in a tubful of pudding (connecting him with the
> >>> soon-to-appear Brigadier Pudding). Two old-school Brits who are still
> >>> focussed on the politics of WWI - totally unable to address the brewing
> >>> holocaust.
> >>>
> >>> Laura
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Mark Kohut
> >>> Sent: Mar 26, 2016 9:21 AM
> >>> To: Monte Davis , pynchon -l
> >>> Subject:
> >>>
> >>> MD---So... why an adenoid (i.e. a tonsil), rather than an appendix or
> spleen
> >>> or hypothalamus? Why human tissue at all, rather than some other
> stand-in
> >>> for Osmo's fears? Its slimy protoplasmic aspect led me on first
> reading to
> >>> think of SF movies:
> >>>
> >>> more to come but remember that Richard Schlubb, when he is brought in
> to
> >>> loop the history is described as 'adenoidal" .....
> >>>
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