GR translation: pick up the reflexes for Intent to Gawk
Mike Jing
gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com
Sat Oct 8 02:05:20 CDT 2016
Thanks for responding, Jochen and Mark.
On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
> Besides all that Jochen has found---and it lead me to some good stuff re
> Shakespeare's use of "mopery"---
> I think that even more might be encased in the phrase. ...
>
> First, Mopery , an ambiguously rich word in the way back time, one of the
> meanings of which is "droolingly stupid".
> Like when you're in love---as Romeo is described early in his play over his
> girlfriend BEFORE Juliet...
> and as Hamlet early IS...as he talks, thinks and doesn't act.....
>
> Go back to a little earlier in GR than Mike starts the quote...get most of
> the scene:
>
> Here we remember that this dream scene is perhaps also a seance...."Why
> shouldn't the IG go to seances?" after
> we have TRP giving us Jung's "ancestral pool in which everyone shares in the
> same dream material".
>
> Where from the text it appears we get one of [Jung's] archetypes (ancestral
> pools) which looks "pretty much like any other" "after you get a little time
> in--whatever that means over here"
> [the Other Side]
> ---then we learn that some 'new hires'...who have passed thru 'feeling' and
> "wonder'---those words often indicating some
> mystic vision on the other side from this side of understanding --- the
> "over here"--clearly some timeless, whatever that means, realm.
>
> That seersucker crowd, those bureaucrats, who were once full of such
> excitement over the afterlife....but they have now "calm[ed] down fast
> enough"....
> so as boredom, part of some meanings of mopery, has set in, they are now
> "picking up [from the temporal side] [again] "the reflexes for
> Intent to Gawk"...for simply looking around now without feeling, nor wonder,
> just a kind of half-depressed boredom, so to speak.
>
> Perhaps one of Pynchon's sublime image and scenic riffs on
> bureaucracy....the crowd without feeling or wonder even where the Wonders
> are supposed to be infinite.
>
> On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 1:20 AM, Mike Jing <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> So in this context, does it mean that the newcomers have downgraded
>> their active gawking to mere Intent to Gawk?
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 2, 2016 at 6:53 AM, Jochen Stremmel <jstremmel at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > you know, this could be really interesting: because P used the majuscule
>> > I
>> > looked up "Intent to Gawk" which sounded like a legal term for me and
>> > found
>> > "mopery with intent to gawk" which led me to
>> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mopery where I found P (GR) (and Heller's
>> > Catch 22) mentioned – the wiki has only appearances of the word after
>> > p.417:
>> >
>> > Slang: a trivial, imaginary violation of law (also seen defined as: act
>> > of
>> > moping; vagrancy, dawdling); "The War must've been lean times for crowd
>> > control, murder and mopery was the best you could do" 570; "Magda was
>> > picked
>> > up on first-degree mopery" 742; "Edelman [...] accused last year of an
>> > 11569
>> > (Attempted Mopery with a Subversive Instrument)" 755;
>> >
>> > Nice is the definition by R. Baker, quoted by the wikipedia after
>> > Safire:
>> > "mopery isn't a crime, but only an old policemen's joke in which it's
>> > defined as the act of displaying yourself in the nude to a blind
>> > person."
>> >
>> > One could argue that you are born with Intent to Gawk, there's nothing
>> > to
>> > pick up later.
>> >
>> > 2016-10-02 5:54 GMT+02:00 Mike Jing <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com>:
>> >>
>> >> V411.2-14, P417.28-40 Kekulé’s dream here’s being routed now past
>> >> points which may arc through the silence, in bright reluctance to live
>> >> inside the moving moment, an imperfect, a human light, over here
>> >> interfering with the solemn binary decisions of these agents, who are
>> >> now allowing the cosmic Serpent, in the violet splendor of its scales,
>> >> shining that is definitely not human, to pass—without feeling, without
>> >> wonder (after you get a little time in—whatever that means over
>> >> here—one of these archetypes gets to look pretty much like any other,
>> >> oh you hear some of these new hires, the seersucker crowd come in the
>> >> first day, “Wow! Hey—that’s th-th’ Tree o Creation! Huh? Ain’t it!
>> >> Je-eepers!” but they calm down fast enough, pick up the reflexes for
>> >> Intent to Gawk, you know self-criticism’s an amazing technique, it
>> >> shouldn’t work but it does . . . .
>> >>
>> >> What does "pick up the reflexes for Intent to Gawk" mean?
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