Re: GR translation: It isn’t politics or fuck-your-buddy

[Mike Jing]

Thanks, Monte, Mark, and Glenn.

On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 12:15 PM, Glenn fuller
<glennfuller at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> A very cynical pragmatism... Willingness to do anything to survive
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> On Wednesday, August 31, 2016 7:39 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> A--and
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> Alternative name[edit]
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> Nash's original name for the game, before it was published as So Long
> Sucker, was Fuck Your Buddy.[2] The first episode of Adam Curtis's
> documentary The Trap, which looked at Nash's work, was subtitled "F**k You
> Buddy".
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ So_Long_Sucker
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> Seems Thomas Berger put it into Crazy in Berlin, his first novel, in 1958.
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> About a WW2 Corporal. Berger was loosely associated by some reviewers in the
> sixties with Pynchon, just sayin'. Before Gravity's Rainbow I wanted to read
> him before Pynchon. Seems about no one reads him anymore, anyone, anyone?
> https://books.google.com/ books?isbn=0199751552
> Jesse Sheidlower - 2009 - ‎Reference
> 1958 T. Berger Crazy in Berlin 302: What is this, fuck-your-buddy week?
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> On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Monte Davis <montedavis49 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> "Devil take the hindmost": pure animal self-interest, the obverse and dark
> twin of "band of brothers," comrades in arms, etc etc etc. Yes, that
> much-celebrated bonding happens... but so does the battlefield equivalent of
> the good old civilian "I disliked that guy the first time I laid eyes on
> him."
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> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 11:05 PM, Mike Jing <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com >
> wrote:
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> V331.19-27, P336.13-21   . . . . Geli snickering in the darkness. They
> must have known her. They didn’t ask her anything.
>        When he brought it up later, she wasn’t sure just what this is
> between Tchitcherine and the Africans, but whatever it is it’s being
> carried on with high passion.
>        “It’s hate, all right,” she said. “Stupid, stupid—The war’s
> over. It isn’t politics or fuck-your-buddy, it’s old-time, pure,
> personal hate.”
>        “Enzian?”
>        “I think so.”
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> What kind of sentiment does "fuck-your-buddy" imply here?
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