GR translation:
Mark Kohut
mark.kohut at gmail.com
Sat Sep 10 12:49:43 CDT 2016
I have read 'in their certain love' as love as solid and forever as the
mountains--[phrase before it]--
Certain carrying notions of the love so unthinkingly deep, it can hardly
even be questioned. Like worldview beliefs
from the way back--Adams' Mont-Saint Michel time; as in what Wittgenstein
said in On Certainty,
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Certainty].
The exiled women do not even know anything about the real Tchitcherine, yet
their love is there.
Of course, Tchitcherine will one day be so transformed that the above and
the other so solid
world-changing realities--earthquakes, wind, a purge, a war, and millions
of previous deaths
will hardly be in his memory.
Here and in a few other places, I often think of some mystical religious
writers---such as Simone Weil
of Gravity & Grace [sic, those key TRP terms]---who write of the Beatific
Vision or simply the death-transformation.
Simone basically says, yes we survive bodily death but we hardly will
know--or care.
Even one of the Gospellers, or Paul: "The eye has not seen, nor the ear
heard" etc.
On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 8:53 PM, Mike Jing <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com>
wrote:
> V359.10-20, P364.31-365.3 Tchitcherine will reach the Kirghiz Light,
> but not his birth. He is no aqyn, and his heart was never ready. He
> will see It just before dawn. He will spend 12 hours then, face-up on
> the desert, a prehistoric city greater than Babylon lying in stifled
> mineral sleep a kilometer below his back, as the shadow of the tall
> rock, rising to a point, dances west to east and Džaqyp Qulan tends
> him, anxious as child and doll, and drying foam laces the necks of the
> two horses. But someday, like the mountains, like the young exiled
> women in their certain love, in their innocence of him, like the
> morning earthquakes and the cloud-driving wind, a purge, a war, and
> millions after millions of souls gone behind him, he will hardly be
> able to remember It.
>
> What's the meaning of "in their certain love" and "in their innocence of
> him"?
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