Bodhisattva, Karmic Shepard, part 1

David Morris fqmorris at gmail.com
Mon Apr 10 10:17:12 CDT 2017


I agree that the question of WHY Maya isn't answerable.

"Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing
formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?"
Romans 9:20

So one is only left to start with what IS, as you quote Wittgenstein.

David Morris

On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 9:55 AM, Bruno <bruno.laze at gmail.com> wrote:

> Sorry about that, I hit tab and then some other button (I hate that tab,
> makes me lose so many e-mails). So:
>
> I see it as a lighthearted take on the question that Eastern or Western
> religion cannot answer in satisfying way, and is so well put by
> Wittgenstein in the Tractatus:
> The Mystic about the world is not *how *it is, but *that *it is.
> That story about one true Consciousness doesn't give a good answer on why
> there is a Maya (our illusory world). Neither does Christianity: why did
> good bother to create a world? If he was perfect, he wouldn't have to do
> anything besides what he already was doing.
>
>
> 2017-04-10 9:49 GMT-05:00 Bruno <bruno.laze at gmail.com>:
>
>> I don't think that's postmodern; I see it as a lighthearted take on the
>> question that Eastern or Western religion can
>>
>> 2017-04-09 8:27 GMT-05:00 David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> That last line was meant as a joke.
>>>
>>> The gist was a take on reality and experience.
>>>
>>> David Morris
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 6:36 AM Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> fuck that. god has nothing to do with it. its just a handy metaphor for
>>>> displacing responsibility. comes to that it's me that pisses me off, not
>>>> god. i could be doing more to set my life right.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 9:34 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.buddhanet.net/e-learning/history/b_fbodi.htm
>>>>
>>>> Many Eastern spiritual paths believe that all beings are ultimately not
>>>> separate individuals, but are instead eternal and recurring individual
>>>> manifestations of a single all-pervading creating Consciousness, both
>>>> creator and perceiver. In this schema Shakespeare was right: "All the
>>>> world's but a stage." Perceived reality is paper thin.  Real reality is a
>>>> unifying Consciousness that stages a play for itself.  Shiva and Shakti.
>>>> Underneath all perceived reality is the creator who is us, both Shiva and
>>>> Shakti, who are one.
>>>>
>>>> So, next is the Matrix-like concept that everything we see is an
>>>> illusion, a deception.  But in this case the deception is a state assumed
>>>> voluntary, like taking a drug.  In this matrix God has intentionally given
>>>> himself a Mickey to see if he can find his way back to himself. A perverse
>>>> god, willingly creating bad in order to experience it, which wouldn't be so
>>>> bad, except we are his vehicles of experience. Creation in this scenario is
>>>> a game God is playing with himself.  How postmodern is that?
>>>>
>>>> David Morris
>>>>
>>>> God pisse me off!
>>>>
>>>> David Morris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
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