NP Twin Peaks Return, season 1
David Morris
fqmorris at gmail.com
Wed Aug 9 21:37:30 CDT 2017
On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 9:36 PM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> I thinthink before vibration and then form there has to be a space for
> that. Space is the 1st stage for everything. Before iHave been nothing.nn
> Before space, nothingness.
>
> David Morris
>
> On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 8:36 PM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think Lynch is a longtime Trans Med practioner, I think a tantric
>> path. The ancient roots of tantra is Kashmir Shaivism, which posits that
>> the most basic element of the Universe is a vibration, not a form.
>> Vibrations thicken, and become form. Lynch's fascination with forms of
>> energy, vibrations all, seems a part of this cosmos.
>>
>> Kashmir Shaivism is Hindu, and long predates Bhudism. It's wave-v-ness
>> seems a precursor to quantum physics. It posits wave first.
>>
>> David Morrir
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 5:49 PM John Bailey <sundayjb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> After Eraserhead, Lynch spent years planning a film called Ronnie
>>> Rocket of which he said: "It's an absurd mystery of the strange forces
>>> of existence. It's about electricity... coal and oil and electricity."
>>> He also described one of its characters as "60-cycle alternating
>>> current electricity".
>>> I think a lot of that must have bled into his other work. Someone in
>>> The Return explicitly mentioned how fire and electricity are similar
>>> forces in the TP cosmos and various spirits and characters have
>>> physically travelled on electric currents. Plus there's the light
>>> spectrum - blue and red have particular meanings in Lynch's work.
>>> I feel the symbolism and choice of imagery in both Lynch and Pynchon's
>>> stuff is more loose and instinctive, though. Both tease the reader who
>>> wants to look for rigid codes that will 'decipher' the work.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 2:42 AM, Smoke Teff <smoketeff at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Yes. Lynch's electricity in TP:TR not unlike TRP's electric light in
>>> AtD.
>>> >
>>> > The [spoiler?] phantom miner types in TP:TR, for one thing. The
>>> multiple
>>> > overlapping, intersecting planes of being.
>>> >
>>> > Lynch is generally more overtly personal and less
>>> systematic/historical than
>>> > Pynchon, but I think the nature of the project brings out some
>>> affinities.
>>> > Lynch is bridging three decades in this quasi-real space--Twin Peaks
>>> being
>>> > more a Pynchonian kind of space than most of Lynch's other worlds, in
>>> my
>>> > opinion--where extrahuman forces effect a losing of something like
>>> > innocence.
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 9:18 AM, Johnny Marr <marrja at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Anybody else feel Twin Peaks: The Return bears certain parallels with
>>> >> Against The Day?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Sunday, August 6, 2017, John Bailey <sundayjb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> There's talk that it's the last TV/film thing he'll do (I imagine
>>> >>> he'll keep painting).
>>> >>> I'm struck by how self-reflexive the show is now. The movie Fire Walk
>>> >>> With Me opens with a TV screen being destroyed but this season has so
>>> >>> many moments that seem to be speaking directly to the expectations
>>> >>> people have of Lynch himself.
>>> >>> From the radio signal in part 8 to the New York box, there's lots of
>>> >>> meta-commentary on the insidious possibilities of media injure or
>>> >>> corrupt, but now we have the auteur himself appearing early on to say
>>> >>> "I don't understand this situation at all"!
>>> >>> There's a great recap of the last episode that notes how the extended
>>> >>> exit of Lynch's French lady-friend is so deliberate:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> "Watch the look of pure joy on Lynch-as-Gordon’s face as Gordon’s
>>> >>> French date sloooooowly makes her exit: She puts on her shoes, shows
>>> >>> off her legs, straightens her clothes, checks her makeup, reapplies
>>> >>> her lipstick, takes another sip of wine, and kisses him goodbye,
>>> >>> dragging everything out as long as humanly possible. And Gordon is
>>> >>> just thrilled to pieces.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Albert, watching, is less pleased. He wants to sit down with Gordon
>>> >>> and talk business. When Gordon suggests that he get back to his date
>>> >>> and his glass of wine, Albert is stonefaced.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Gordon puts a comforting arm on his shoulder. “Albert,” he says,
>>> >>> “sometimes I really worry about you.”
>>> >>>
>>> >>> The idea of talking business on this show is worrying. It’s as if the
>>> >>> show itself is asking why the audience is so invested in the idea of
>>> a
>>> >>> resolution. Why devote so much emotional energy to trying to solve
>>> the
>>> >>> mysteries when, after all, there is good wine to be drunk, and when
>>> >>> there are beautiful women to chat up? Twin Peaks wants you to relax.
>>> >>> Enjoy yourself."
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 7:42 AM, Smoke Teff <smoketeff at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>> > Very happy to read this message. Glad other people are experiencing
>>> >>> > this
>>> >>> > similarly.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > I was thinking today that one of the most distinctive things about
>>> the
>>> >>> > return, to me, in addition to how good it is, is the prominence of
>>> >>> > Lynch on
>>> >>> > screen. His character is probably eclipsing Cooper as the closest
>>> thing
>>> >>> > we
>>> >>> > have to a protagonist/hero we have--at least through the first
>>> dozen
>>> >>> > episodes or so.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 10:15 PM, Ian Livingston
>>> >>> > <igrlivingston at gmail.com>
>>> >>> > wrote:
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> Absolutely.
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 7:40 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
>>> >>> >> wrote:
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>> I love the last half of episode 8. The Kubrick reference to the
>>> post
>>> >>> >>> Bomb couldn't have bee more literal. Then things get freaky.
>>> Pure
>>> >>> >>> Lynch.
>>> >>> >>> Such a treat.
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>> David Morris
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >
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>>
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