Mindful pleasures..... As the words turn.

[Keith Davis]

Well said.

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> On Aug 28, 2017, at 11:59 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
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> I think "Mindfullness" in meditation terms mean "focusing attention."  It is an action more than a state. There are many ways to focus attention, many sense-based locales for focus.  The central idea is sustained focus on a sensation or question.
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> Chi schools teach how to sense and manipulate Chi, Life Force.  More passive schools don't aim to manipulate that Chi, but to give it free reign.  I prefer the later.  Both are attention-based meditation techniques.  Other Zen schools advise to ignore the energy.  Zen is  too strict for me.
> 
> David Morris
> 
>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 10:59 AM Atticus Pinecone <atticuspinecone at gmail.com> wrote:
>> That's where it gets weird. Mindfulness is part of the Noble Eightfold Path—and it means to keep in mind all the other numbered Buddhist stuff... all of which doesn't jive with getting ahead in a rat race. 
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>>> On Aug 28, 2017, at 11:36 AM, Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> That was kinda my take, but I didn't know how to say it, "secularizing mindfulness...". Nice.
>>> You might say mindfulness is a product or result of meditation?
>>> 
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>>>> On Aug 28, 2017, at 9:55 AM, Atticus Pinecone <atticuspinecone at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> The Buddhist take on it is 'yeah, it really is selfish, but better than going around making a mess of things'.
>>>> 
>>>> Maybe secularizing mindfulness is... I don't know... stupid? Besides it's meditation that sows the benefits—mindfulness goes on top of that.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 27, 2017, at 1:34 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/mindfulness-would-be-good-for-you-if-it-werent-all-just-hype/2017/08/24/b97d0220-76e2-11e7-9eac-d56bd5568db8_story.html?utm_term=.a655dfed2455
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