Mindful pleasures..... As the words turn.

Seymour Landnau seymourlandnau at gmail.com
Tue Aug 29 08:45:51 CDT 2017


Om namah Shiva!

On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 8:39 AM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:

> I am more Hindu than Bhuddist, though I started there.  Then I met
> Kundalini.  I don't care about doctrine.  Experience is my meditation.
>
> David Morris
>
> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 8:02 AM Atticus Pinecone <
> atticuspinecone at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Well to keep it grounded in Buddhism, focus is covered by in the Noble
>> Eightfold Path under Right Concentration. Words changing definition is
>> annoying & inevitable, but losing concepts is a problem.
>>
>> There are sects of Buddhism less strict than lay Zen?
>>
>> On Aug 29, 2017, at 8:12 AM, Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Well said.
>>
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>>
>> On Aug 28, 2017, at 11:59 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I think "Mindfullness" in meditation terms mean "focusing attention."  It
>> is an action more than a state. There are many ways to focus attention,
>> many sense-based locales for focus.  The central idea is sustained focus on
>> a sensation or question.
>>
>> Chi schools teach how to sense and manipulate Chi, Life Force.  More
>> passive schools don't aim to manipulate that Chi, but to give it free
>> reign.  I prefer the later.  Both are attention-based meditation
>> techniques.  Other Zen schools advise to ignore the energy.  Zen is  too
>> strict for me.
>>
>> David Morris
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 10:59 AM Atticus Pinecone <
>> atticuspinecone at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> That's where it gets weird. Mindfulness is part of the Noble Eightfold
>>> Path—and it means to keep in mind all the other numbered Buddhist stuff...
>>> all of which doesn't jive with getting ahead in a rat race.
>>>
>>> On Aug 28, 2017, at 11:36 AM, Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> That was kinda my take, but I didn't know how to say it, "secularizing
>>> mindfulness...". Nice.
>>> You might say mindfulness is a product or result of meditation?
>>>
>>> Www.innergroovemusic.com
>>>
>>> On Aug 28, 2017, at 9:55 AM, Atticus Pinecone <atticuspinecone at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The Buddhist take on it is 'yeah, it really is selfish, but better than
>>> going around making a mess of things'.
>>>
>>> Maybe secularizing mindfulness is... I don't know... stupid? Besides
>>> it's meditation that sows the benefits—mindfulness goes on top of that.
>>>
>>> On Aug 27, 2017, at 1:34 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/mindfulness-would-
>>> be-good-for-you-if-it-werent-all-just-hype/2017/08/24/
>>> b97d0220-76e2-11e7-9eac-d56bd5568db8_story.html?utm_term=.a655dfed2455
>>>
>>>
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