Mindful pleasures..... As the words turn.

[David Morris]

I can't respond now in an academic way, but the difference between the
poles of Zen and Tantra include the following:

Zen is dry.  Tantra is wet.

Zen excludes everything.  Tantra includes everything.

Zen is strict.  Tantra is permissive.

Zen is high caste. Tantra includes the lowest caste, and also women.

Zen is right.  Tantra is wrong.

Zen is the elevator.  Tantra is the escalator.

Do you get the gist?
Tantra is actually also a difficult path, but it is more physical to Zen's
mental.

David Morris

On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 10:17 AM Atticus Pinecone <atticuspinecone at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Can you elaborate on 'opposite of Zen'? Sounds interesting.
>
> > On Aug 29, 2017, at 11:12 AM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > You said, "There are sects of Buddhism less strict than lay Zen?"
> >
> > First, I thought, "Is this question serious?"  But my non-sarcastic
> answer follows.
> >
> > Yes.  Tantra.  That is pretty much the opposite of Zen.  It predates
> Bhuddism, yet is integral to Tibetan Bhuddism.  But Tantra is usually kept
> hidden until adepts are ready for it.
> >
> > David Morris
>
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