Mindful pleasures..... As the words turn.

[David Morris]

Not believable.  You don't use Google?  Ingnorant of walking meditation or
kundalini.  You reek of troll.  THAT is what Terrance is.

Your name is fake.  Mine is real.  I am very transparent.

David Morris

On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 2:09 PM Atticus Pinecone <atticuspinecone at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Ha-ha true. The warp and enormity of my ignorance is huge, bigly. But the
> Google machine seems to me a trap for boomers & their ilk.
>
> What if YOURE Terrance or\and Ish (too?).
>
> On Aug 29, 2017, at 2:52 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Really? Hard to believe such ignorance in this age.  Try Google.  Terrance
> is Ish, and maybe you.
>
> David Morris
>
> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 1:45 PM Atticus Pinecone <
> atticuspinecone at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I practice Therevada, which is very limited in comparison to other sects.
>> And after over a decade of practice I've never heard of kundalini & have
>> never actually done walking meditation.
>>
>> What's the story behind this Terrance fellow? I have been around for like
>> a day, so idk about anything about nothing.
>>
>> On Aug 29, 2017, at 2:37 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> This answer makes me think you are playing a game here. Anyone in
>> meditation circles knows about walking meditation.  Likewise even a passing
>> knowledge of kundalini.  I'm beginning to think you are Terrance.  I think
>> this is my last response to you.
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 12:42 PM Atticus Pinecone <
>> atticuspinecone at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Intriguing. I would love to be able to meditate and walk, or chew gum
>>> and stay still, clap with one hand & the like.
>>>
>>> Kundalini is a species of transcendence?
>>>
>>> On Aug 29, 2017, at 12:29 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> "Neti, neti, neti?"
>>> Isn't that Zen?  I know it also precedes Bhudism.  Hindu advaitism.
>>>  "Not that. Not that. Not that."  Sounds like "not everything."
>>>
>>> I don't know TM, but I believe it was tantra.
>>>
>>> My method focused on the body,  breath and movement, and was mostly
>>> walking meditation.  I was "stand alone" except for the Internet.  Then
>>> Kundalini happened, an I had no idea what it was.  Once that awakening
>>> happens meditation becomes autopilot.  Kundalini becomes the  pilot.  The
>>> goddess Kali is very closely associated with Kundalini, a very powerful
>>> female force.  It is the essence of Tantra.
>>>
>>> David Morris
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 10:57 AM Atticus Pinecone <
>>> atticuspinecone at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> A refreshing take on Zen. Not sure of the angle on 'excluding
>>>> everything' when it's heavily Taoist. But the physical V mental I can
>>>> understand... is Tantra more about doing those standing poses I see people
>>>> doing in the park on Sunday mornings?
>>>>
>>>> And is Tantra related to Transcendental Meditation? And is it Latin for
>>>> the plural of tantrum?
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 29, 2017, at 11:35 AM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I can't respond now in an academic way, but the difference between the
>>>> poles of Zen and Tantra include the following:
>>>>
>>>> Zen is dry.  Tantra is wet.
>>>>
>>>> Zen excludes everything.  Tantra includes everything.
>>>>
>>>> Zen is strict.  Tantra is permissive.
>>>>
>>>> Zen is high caste. Tantra includes the lowest caste, and also women.
>>>>
>>>> Zen is right.  Tantra is wrong.
>>>>
>>>> Zen is the elevator.  Tantra is the escalator.
>>>>
>>>> Do you get the gist?
>>>> Tantra is actually also a difficult path, but it is more physical to
>>>> Zen's mental.
>>>>
>>>> David Morris
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 10:17 AM Atticus Pinecone <
>>>> atticuspinecone at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Can you elaborate on 'opposite of Zen'? Sounds interesting.
>>>>>
>>>>> > On Aug 29, 2017, at 11:12 AM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > You said, "There are sects of Buddhism less strict than lay Zen?"
>>>>> >
>>>>> > First, I thought, "Is this question serious?"  But my non-sarcastic
>>>>> answer follows.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Yes.  Tantra.  That is pretty much the opposite of Zen.  It predates
>>>>> Bhuddism, yet is integral to Tibetan Bhuddism.  But Tantra is usually kept
>>>>> hidden until adepts are ready for it.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > David Morris
>>>>>
>>>>
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