Pynchon's censored file aesthetic

Paul Mackin mackin.paul at gmail.com
Thu Aug 31 14:16:50 CDT 2017


TP's choices in naming things and people are so right they can cause you to
quiver.

On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 1:30 PM, ish mailian <ishmailian at gmail.com> wrote:

> The Rocket and the Whale: A Critical Study of Pynchon’s Use of Melville
> Author:Levitsky, Zhana
>
> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 1:29 PM, ish mailian <ishmailian at gmail.com> wrote:
> > The Whiteness of visitations from Above, from Below, and later the
> > White Finality and the whiteness of the rocket/whale....our postmodern
> > friends used to call this symbolic use over-determined and our
> > mathematical friends might call it an overdetermined system.
> >
> > The death and life and grace configurations are infinite at least.
> >
> > God's Grace can do wonders.
> >
> > In Catholicism, it is held that the purpose of this visit was to bring
> > divine grace to both Elizabeth and her unborn child. Even though he
> > was still in his mother's womb, John became aware of the presence of
> > Christ, and leapt for joy as he was cleansed from original sin and
> > filled with divine grace. Elizabeth also responded and recognised the
> > presence of Jesus, and thus Mary exercised her function as
> > mediatrixbetween God and man for the first time.[1]
> >
> > 1.  Holweck, Frederick. Visitation of the Blessed Virgin Mary. The
> > Catholic Encyclopedia. Vol. 15. New York: Robert Appleton Company,
> > 1912. 11 Oct. 2013
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 12:06 PM, Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> Correction: Looking it up, I find "visitation" in Catholic parlance
> refers
> >> to Mary's visit to her cousin Elizabeth, mother to be of John the
> Baptist.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 11:35 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> YES!....
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> "White Visitation" a code name, always appearing in double quotes,
> stands
> >>>> for something secretive, namely  this inter-governmental long-named
> >>>> organization whose purpose is supposed be to try out any outlandish
> scheme
> >>>> anyone can think of that might possible contribute to winning the war.
> >>>>
> >>>> The name itself sounds plausibly like a Catholic hospital or convent.
> >>>> Angel Gabriel appearing to the BVM.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 10:32 AM, Atticus Pinecone
> >>>> <atticuspinecone at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Like a symbol?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As for technique, is it far fetched to think he used Burroughs's cut
> up
> >>>>> style? They have similarly snarled syntax.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> > On Aug 30, 2017, at 8:55 PM, da kid <peterock86 at live.com> wrote:
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Ok so I made a pretentious title for this post which is pretty much
> >>>>> > just a random idea/question. When I was reading Gravity's Rainbow
> I got the
> >>>>> > feeling that some of his proper names particularly The White
> Visitation were
> >>>>> > like, the possible term escapes me, words inserted after the true
> name had
> >>>>> > been erased. Like if you are listening to a recording of someone
> talk and he
> >>>>> > keeps mention someone but when he says that name a computer voice
> chimes in.
> >>>>> > God this is the worst attempt at explanation. But anyways I was
> wondering if
> >>>>> > maybe this idea could connect to Pynchon's "layering" technique of
> writing.
> >>>>> > Any thought?
> >>>>> -
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> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
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