NP - This Xmas Season's Movies

[Mark Kohut]

The witty and ironic Allan B.'s laugh led me to think that MAYBE what I
wrote (about recommendation) was
perceived to be ironic---or snarky, that shadowy dissolute cousin.

Well, it wasn't.

Those fine words seeing SILENCE so seriously and interestingly, even with
fault-finding, just made me more convinced that
it is a Scorcese worth seeing and feeling--even if it is imperfect with the
highest judgment.
He usually has been---although a couple left me, maybe, more unhappy than
Marr's review left him but dunno.



On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 7:02 AM, Allan Balliett <allan.balliett at gmail.com>
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> HaHaHa!
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> On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 6:54 AM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Thanks for the recommendation.
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>> On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 4:55 AM, Johnny Marr <marrja at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Scorsese's Silence reminded me of a former girlfriend: very beautiful,
>> devoutly Catholic (whilst acknowledging plenty of doubts) and a lot of hard
>> work at times. I happen to think The Last Temptation of Christ is one of
>> his underrated works so I'm not adverse to one of his spiritualist epics,
>> or for a sincere examination of faith, but I found this buckles under the
>> weight of its own solemnity. If you're going to be this humourless then you
>> need to an extra level of profundity or transcendence, which Silence
>> provides all too rarely. Andrew Garfield's central performance is too blank
>> - he never convinced me as a man of existential depth - and the film lapses
>> into Scorsese's usual faults - women are marginalised, non-white characters
>> are shady and distrustful and an lingering sense of sadomasochism
>> left this viewer feeling punished (perhaps suitably). Still, to evoke a
>> lesser Wagner symphony, there are a couple of moments of rapture,
>> particularly on the occasions when the Buddhist priests test the Catholics'
>> faith, and the visual design is sumptuous throughout, applying an Old Dutch
>> Master palate to contemporary historic setting, but not enough to rescue a
>> laboursome effort. At least my ex could be a lot of fun.
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>> On Friday, December 30, 2016, Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Looks good.
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>> Www.innergroovemusic.com
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>> On Dec 29, 2016, at 8:04 PM, Rob Miller <robcmiller at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Anyone here seen Fences? Been meaning to go see that...
>> On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 9:19 PM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Yes.  The ending of OA sucked, and started sucking in the 2nd to last
>> episode.  This is too bad, because it probably coulda have had more
>> Seasons.  It had painted itself into a corner, but in Scifi and comic
>> books, it is always possible to overcome the impossible with more fantastic
>> new premises.  But then, ultimately, the goose has to come home to be
>> cooked...  Unless it doesn't ever do that, ie. come home.
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>> David Morris
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>> On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 8:01 PM, kelber at mindspring.com <
>> kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:
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>> A poorly- constructed sentence on my part. I was referring to the ending
>> of The OA, not the ending of Manchester By the Sea.
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>> LK
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>> *Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID*
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>> Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> The ending of MANCHESTER-by-the-Sea is perfect. Thematically resonant as
>> tubular bells.
>> REAL Chekhovian likeness, so to speak.
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>> Sent from my iPad
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>> On Dec 28, 2016, at 5:56 PM, "kelber at mindspring.com" <
>> kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:
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>> Most of the reviews warn that the ending sucks, but on Mr. Morris's
>> recommendation, I've been watching The OA, on Netflix. Enthralling
>> story-telling, even if it turns out to be just a shaggy-dog story.
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>> LK
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>> *Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID*
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>> Allan Balliett <allan.balliett at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Re: Manchester by the Sea.
>> while it qualified for my highest accolade (I didn't leave the auditorium
>> to pee even once even though I was in an Alamo theater) I was so perplexed
>> (or underwhelmed?) by the ending that I'm not recommending the film
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>> But i sure enjoyed Casey on SNL the other night!!
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>> Looking forward to the new tv Sherlock next week!
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>> Allan in WV
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>> On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 10:38 AM kelber at mindspring.com <
>> kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:
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>> The trailer certainly makes it look like a by-the-numbers guy-weepy (ya
>> know, like Shawshank Redemption). Is it drastically different from what's
>> shown in the previews? I stay far, far away from weepies of any variety.
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>> Laura
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>> *Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID*
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>> Jim Frame <jbframe at aol.com> wrote:
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>> Not everyone liked it.
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>> From: Joe Allonby <joeallonby at gmail.com>
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>> To: David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
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>> Cc: P-list <pynchon-l at waste.org>
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>> Sent: Wed, Dec 28, 2016 2:31 am
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>> I just saw Manchester by the Sea.  It is a finely-crafted tale that
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>> is the telling of its story via seamless meshing of past with present.
>> This meshing makes us quickly love and care for all the characters
>> presented, but especially for the main one, a deeply broken man who always
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