NP - This Xmas Season's Movies

[rich]

Just my opinion but Scorcese has been ruined by his success. Who's
knocking, Mean Streets, Raging Bull are the epitome of the italian American
experience. I know from what soil those stories were grown. Of course, Taxi
Driver still haunts me to this day and I watch it at least once a year. So
very New York. However after Goodfellas and Casino he became a victim of
his own success. No he makes Hollywood drek--his Irish gangsters movies are
phony, he loves DiCaprio (nuff said). You couldnt pay me to go see Silence.
wolf of wall street was dreadful. he used to use music so well. many of his
late movies it overwhelms everything including the dialogue. Part of the
problem: too many projects (like DeNiro)


I would recommend American Boy, his take  on the guy who plays Easy Andy in
Taxi Driver; and italian american, where he interviews his parents. his
slick docs on the Stones, George Harrison and Dylan were lame

he's slated to return to the gangster flick with the Irishman starring
DeNiro, Pacino--i think Pesci declined to participate which I can only hope
he returns to form

rich


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>> On Jan 3, 2017, at 9:11 PM, Johnny Marr <marrja at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> It's a film that's divided opinion, which has to be better than being
>> inoffensive but unmemorable.
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>> The BFI are running a Scorsese season at the moment in London, so I took
>> the opportunity to catch Scorsese's debut Who's That Knocking At My Door?
>> It's very much for completionists only, but if you like Scorsese then
>> there's plenty to chew on. It's effectively the same film as Mean Streets
>> with less polish and without Robert De Niro's star power. Scorsese's
>> abiding themes are immediately in place - the Italian-American family,
>> petty hoodlums in New York, Catholic guilt, self-destructive masculine
>> violence, cinephilia's transcendent capabilities - and Thelma Schoonmaker's
>> already a substantial editor, combining rapid fire close up cuts with well
>> judged slow motion sequences. There's one revelatory scene, which I'm not
>> going to spoil for those of you who are interested in watching this, save
>> to say it was 'borrowed' for a more famous film in later years. It's an
>> accomplished work of someone who's found his voice if not yet his best
>> stories or characters - Scorsese himself says tche film was a lot of
>> trouble to make but he's primarily proud of it because it was one of the
>> first films to realistically portray Italian-Americans. Anybody on the
>> P-List who fits that description?
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>> A couple of other new UK releases: A Monster's Call is a touchingly
>> underplayed self-adaptation of Patrick Ness's story of a young boy
>> struggling with inner demons as his mother faces a terminal cancer
>> diagnosis. It suffers slightly from the use of rather rickety CGI animation
>> for the child's psychological monster, but I found it quite moving - I'm
>> aware that films about terminal illness can play to the galleries a little,
>> but in my opinion this captured the scenario more realistically than other
>> maudlin efforts; Toby Kebell has a strong cameo as the absent father
>> attempting to explain with a dark edged humour how life is about to get a
>> lot tougher - reminded me of how the renowned 'English sense of humour' is
>> often a reversion to the comforting terrain of flippant dismissal to avoid
>> deeper examination. The book is reportedly far superior to the film, in
>> which case the film makes a fairly good case for the book. There's probably
>> a parallel world or two where A Monster's Call is a huge sleeper hit.
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>> There's also likely an entire parallel multiverse of Godforsaken planets
>> where Assassin's Creed is a box ofe in the worst possible world, so
>> Assassin's Creed has failed miserably. It's a dismal couple of hours of
>> poorly plotted, vainly posturing mock historical-time travel fantasy
>> combining a botched projected metaphor about the battle of Freedom of
>> Thought and Speech which lies at the heart of both America in 2016 and
>> Spain in 1492, alongside cliched skling villains in dark shadows and action
>> sequences so forgettable I'm not even certain they occurred. Please don't
>> make me time-travel back to double check.
>> This is all the more infuriating because Justin Kurzel has directed a
>> good film before (the darkly menacing Snowtown, which benefits from being a
>> familiar true story from Kurzel's native Australia, as well as not
>> providing him with a massive budget and accompanying perogative to throw
>> money at pyrothechnics for 120 minutes), although he's already blotted his
>> copybook with last yeat's Macbeth, another gore-tastic empty spectacle.
>> Michael Fassbender, an actor of talent but also of variable performances,
>> delivers a bland leading role; Marion Cotillard is completely wasted, as
>> are most of the cast. It's even got Ariane Labed, and I love Ariane Labed
>> more than I love apple pie and custard, but it's still not enough to redeem
>> the film. AVOID.
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>> On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 5:46 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> The witty and ironic Allan B.'s laugh led me to think that MAYBE what I
>>> wrote (about recommendation) was
>>> perceived to be ironic---or snarky, that shadowy dissolute cousin.
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>>> Well, it wasn't.
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>>> Those fine words seeing SILENCE so seriously and interestingly, even
>>> with fault-finding, just made me more convinced that
>>> it is a Scorcese worth seeing and feeling--even if it is imperfect with
>>> the highest judgment.
>>> He usually has been---although a couple left me, maybe, more unhappy
>>> than Marr's review left him but dunno.
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>>> On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 7:02 AM, Allan Balliett <allan.balliett at gmail.com
>>> > wrote:
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>>>> HaHaHa!
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>>>> On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 6:54 AM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>> Thanks for the recommendation.
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>>>>> On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 4:55 AM, Johnny Marr <marrja at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>>> Scorsese's Silence reminded me of a former girlfriend: very
>>>>>> beautiful, devoutly Catholic (whilst acknowledging plenty of doubts) and a
>>>>>> lot of hard work at times. I happen to think The Last Temptation of Christ
>>>>>> is one of his underrated works so I'm not adverse to one of his
>>>>>> spiritualist epics, or for a sincere examination of faith, but I found this
>>>>>> buckles under the weight of its own solemnity. If you're going to be this
>>>>>> humourless then you need to an extra level of profundity or transcendence,
>>>>>> which Silence provides all too rarely. Andrew Garfield's central
>>>>>> performance is too blank - he never convinced me as a man of existential
>>>>>> depth - and the film lapses into Scorsese's usual faults - women are
>>>>>> marginalised, non-white characters are shady and distrustful and an
>>>>>> lingering sense of sadomasochism left this viewer feeling punished (perhaps
>>>>>> suitably). Still, to evoke a lesser Wagner symphony, there are a couple of
>>>>>> moments of rapture, particularly on the occasions when the Buddhist priests
>>>>>> test the Catholics' faith, and the visual design is sumptuous throughout,
>>>>>> applying an Old Dutch Master palate to contemporary historic setting, but
>>>>>> not enough to rescue a laboursome effort. At least my ex could be a lot of
>>>>>> fun.
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>>>>>> On Friday, December 30, 2016, Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>>>> Looks good.
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>>>>>>> Www.innergroovemusic.com
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>>>>>>> On Dec 29, 2016, at 8:04 PM, Rob Miller <robcmiller at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
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>>>>>>> Anyone here seen Fences? Been meaning to go see that...
>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 9:19 PM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
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>>>>>>>> Yes.  The ending of OA sucked, and started sucking in the 2nd to
>>>>>>>> last episode.  This is too bad, because it probably coulda have had more
>>>>>>>> Seasons.  It had painted itself into a corner, but in Scifi and comic
>>>>>>>> books, it is always possible to overcome the impossible with more fantastic
>>>>>>>> new premises.  But then, ultimately, the goose has to come home to be
>>>>>>>> cooked...  Unless it doesn't ever do that, ie. come home.
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>>>>>>>> David Morris
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>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 8:01 PM, kelber at mindspring.com <
>>>>>>>> kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:
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>>>>>>>>> A poorly- constructed sentence on my part. I was referring to the
>>>>>>>>> ending of The OA, not the ending of Manchester By the Sea.
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>>>>>>>>> LK
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>>>>>>>>> *Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID*
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>>>>>>>>> Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>>>>>> The ending of MANCHESTER-by-the-Sea is perfect. Thematically
>>>>>>>>> resonant as tubular bells.
>>>>>>>>> REAL Chekhovian likeness, so to speak.
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>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
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>>>>>>>>> On Dec 28, 2016, at 5:56 PM, "kelber at mindspring.com" <
>>>>>>>>> kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:
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>>>>>>>>> Most of the reviews warn that the ending sucks, but on Mr.
>>>>>>>>> Morris's recommendation, I've been watching The OA, on Netflix. Enthralling
>>>>>>>>> story-telling, even if it turns out to be just a shaggy-dog story.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> LK
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>>>>>>>>> *Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID*
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>>>>>>>>> Allan Balliett <allan.balliett at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>>>>>> Re: Manchester by the Sea.
>>>>>>>>> while it qualified for my highest accolade (I didn't leave the
>>>>>>>>> auditorium to pee even once even though I was in an Alamo theater) I was so
>>>>>>>>> perplexed (or underwhelmed?) by the ending that I'm not recommending the
>>>>>>>>> film
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>>>>>>>>> But i sure enjoyed Casey on SNL the other night!!
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>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to the new tv Sherlock next week!
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>>>>>>>>> Allan in WV
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>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 10:38 AM kelber at mindspring.com <
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>>>>>>>>>> The trailer certainly makes it look like a by-the-numbers
>>>>>>>>>> guy-weepy (ya know, like Shawshank Redemption). Is it drastically different
>>>>>>>>>> from what's shown in the previews? I stay far, far away from weepies of any
>>>>>>>>>> variety.
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>>>>>>>>>> Laura
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>>>>>>>>>> *Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID*
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>>>>>>>>>> Jim Frame <jbframe at aol.com> wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>> From: Joe Allonby <joeallonby at gmail.com>
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>>>>>>>>>> To: David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
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>>>>>>>>>>> I just saw Manchester by the Sea.  It is a finely-crafted tale
>>>>>>>>>>> that jerked many tears from this sap.  Beside the great acting, its best
>>>>>>>>>>> feature is the telling of its story via seamless meshing of past with
>>>>>>>>>>> present.  This meshing makes us quickly love and care for all the
>>>>>>>>>>> characters presented, but especially for the main one, a deeply broken man
>>>>>>>>>>> who always soldiers on through his great pain.  Highly recommended.
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