NP - Did Putin Swing the Election to Trump? Of Course He Did.

[David Morris]

All Greenwald says in this interview is "Don't believe [anything] that you
hear from US intelligence."  No more than that.  We know Bush lied us into
Iraq, but do we believe Obama is lying us into believing that Russia hacked
the election for Trump?  The implied symmetry is crap.

Why do you give him more credence than Obama?

David Morris

On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 4:13 PM, <kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:

> As a courageous investigative journalist, do you think Greenwald's now
> become a mouthpiece for Putin merely because Russia cagily gave his past
> source Snowden asylum? Is that really all it takes to buy his collusion? Or
> is there some other reason for his alleged bias that you're speaking of.
> Which statements of his on the clip do you specifically disagree with?
>
> LK
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Morris
> Sent: Jan 9, 2017 5:07 PM
> To: "kelber at mindspring.com"
> Cc: P-list
> Subject: Re: NP - Did Putin Swing the Election to Trump? Of Course He Did.
>
> Nice try to paint your stance as beleaguered minority one. But the point
> is that Greenwald is not unbiased when it comes to Russia.
>
> David Morris
>
> On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 4:04 PM, <kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> Is there any way to dissent from orthodoxy without being called a
>> lunatic, a dupe or an axe-grinder?
>>
>> Laura
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David Morris
>> Sent: Jan 9, 2017 5:00 PM
>> To: "kelber at mindspring.com"
>> Cc: P-list
>> Subject: Re: NP - Did Putin Swing the Election to Trump? Of Course He
>> Did.
>>
>> Greenwald is NOT a reliable source in this case.  His axe grinding is as
>> obvious as hell.
>>
>> David Morris
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 3:55 PM, <kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>>> As a Pynchon reader, I can simultaneously hold two ideas in my brain,
>>> one of which is supported and one of which is not supported by the liberal
>>> establishment: 1. Trump is a horror; and 2. Putin wasn't responsible for
>>> his election.
>>>
>>> http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/08/us/greenwald-intel-report-reliable-cnntv/
>>>
>>> Laura
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: David Morris
>>> Sent: Jan 9, 2017 4:35 PM
>>> To: P-list
>>> Subject: NP - Did Putin Swing the Election to Trump? Of Course He Did.
>>>
>>> Thomas Eckhardt was oh so concerned about the Ukraine.  Not that it was
>>> being annexed by Russia, but that some of those wanting freedom from Russia
>>> were nazis.  Now the US is being annexed by nazis with the help of Russia.
>>> Where is his concern now?
>>>
>>> David Morris
>>>
>>> http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/01/did-putin-swin
>>> g-election-trump-course-he-did
>>>
>>> Given how close the election was, there's a pretty good chance that
>>> Putin's campaign of cyber-chaos had enough oomph to swing things all by
>>> itself.
>>>
>>> I'm a little surprised this hasn't produced more panic. In the United
>>> States I understand why it hasn't: Democrats don't want to sound like sore
>>> losers and Republicans don't care as long as their guy won. But what about
>>> the rest of the world?
>>>
>>>
>>
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