Assange

Wed Jan 11 10:14:06 CST 2017

Trump has no need for Putin and is controlled by his own ego; he is the puppet of the shortest attention span in human history. He clearly aspires to Putin-style strong man authoritarianism and rule by corrupt oiligarchs but it is the republican party who has the most power by far right now and they are scary enough, it is from their rightward wing that Trump is building his team and from their deep state centrists that the outer limits of what is permissable will be decided.    
  I do not see Pence as a better alternative, he’s a nazi war nut.  

> On Jan 11, 2017, at 1:48 AM, Mark Thibodeau <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com> wrote:
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> At this point, I don't fucking care how he won the election. I don't
> care if I never hear from Hillary Clinton again for the rest of my
> life. I'm not distressed by the current goings-on as an aggrieved
> Clinton fan. I'm distressed because Putin is a monster, as is Trump,
> who we can now be pretty sure is his utterly compromised puppet.
> 
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 1:40 AM, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:
>> I  don’t follow twitter, don’t really care to. Enjoy yourself, though with all of that important shit to worry about..
>> You do seem to be learning some real good insults. Wonderful.
>>  I do have one question though. Do you really think Trump won the election because of people following  wikileaks on twitter?
>> No chance that’s a little overwrought or I don’t know, over focused as an analysis of the election?
>> 
>> There is no e in my last name.
>> 
>>> On Jan 10, 2017, at 11:57 PM, Mark Thibodeau <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> The term "Useful Idiots" has never been more apt than at this moment
>>> in American history.
>>> 
>>> If you follow Wikileaks on Twitter - as I do - then you can NOT have
>>> any more doubt about how compromised and nakedly partisan they have
>>> become.
>>> 
>>> My own doubts began when they started crowing about the "huge"
>>> revelations in the DNC emails, and when I looked at the website they
>>> set up to detail those revelations I found absolutely ridiculous lies.
>>> They just flat-out lied and mischaracterized things, including
>>> pretending not to recognize conversational sarcasm, spinning the
>>> weakest shit into scandal where there WAS NO FUCKING SCANDAL.
>>> 
>>> I mean, sorry one of your heroes turned out to be a bona fide piece of
>>> shit, Tracey, but you're going to have to pull up your big boy pants
>>> eventually and own up. You got conned. It's okay, you're not alone.
>>> 
>>> Either that, or just hunker down with your idiot certainty and leave
>>> those of us who are interested in getting to the actual bottom of
>>> things alone for a couple of weeks, wouldja? We've got more important
>>> shit to worry about than meeting your ever-evolving standards of
>>> rhetorical excellence.
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> yer old pal Jerky
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 11:20 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> The old can't win, double-bind "logic" ....I am accused of making stuff up two emails ago and when I show the sourcing, then accused that I " can't make arguments myself" . so it goes.
>>>> 
>>>> All I got are my perceived facts and logic, just like you on this.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 10, 2017, at 11:13 PM, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Your sentences are  a bit fuzzy and I won’t be reading the articles with which you feed  your arguments, arguments you cannot seem to make on your own. This is called a media feeding frenzy and it usually doesn’t bring out the best in the press.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 10, 2017, at 10:18 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>>> People can change. People in exile in a foreign country may find themselves beholden willingly or not. By teaming up with a Putin. By having to bow to Putin.
>>>>>> One "weaponizes" emails by choosing to only release one side when both hacked. ( see the lying NYTimes on the concept and word ) Attendant words from Putin wanted Clinton defeated. Because he would rather not deal with her, she threatened his autocratic greed and power grabs. Trump doesn't.
>>>>>> I sent articles on ASsange's lies. Refute them. I made up NO accusations, not even an interpretive word like " weaponizes".
>>>>>> Assange no longer---see all of today's news about what Russia has on Trump--across the board.
>>>>>> Your radicalism needs a sense of history and change. IMHO.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jan 10, 2017, at 9:47 PM, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sure, that’s why Assange's early work embarrassed George Bush, and in 2008 wikileaks published cables showing the extensive role of the Russian mafia in the Russian government. He also published work exposing Assad's dirty dealings.  Clinton was exposed as a 2 faced liar  by her own words and you don’t like it so  are making up accusations without proof. How do you "weaponize" an e-mail? Assange exposes government crimes and dirty secrets accross the board.   One day the republicans wanted to shoot him, now its the democrats.
>>>>>>> Go Julian. Long may you live and turn the tables on the propaganda/police state  and corporate criminals an all their dirty wars, lies, and criminal rackets.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jan 10, 2017, at 5:14 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>>>>> I see Assange as a sleaze bag. working with a kleptocrat
>>>>>>>> authoritarian Bad Guy like Putin to try to change our election results. (Tried I wrote).
>>>>>>>> the info gathered was "weaponized" for a purpose.
>>>>>>>> Yes, he lies...and he got and never used RNC and state election info.
>>>>>>>> --why?if simple truth-telling is his goal?--putin's puppet or just so anti-Clinton--
>>>>>>>> Watergate was a burglary against the DNC; cyber breaking and entering and stealing
>>>>>>>> is a crime.
>>>>>>>> WikiLeaks tweet shows Assange will lie to further his cause
>>>>>>>> thenextweb.com › Insider
>>>>>>>> Aug 11, 2016 - If you're keeping score at home, this makes two lies -- or misleading ... Proving he's not above a cheap headline, Julian Assange today detailed ...
>>>>>>>> Julian Assange Lied About a WikiLeaks Data Dump on National ...
>>>>>>>> gizmodo.com/julian-assange-lied-about-a-wikileaks-data-dump-on-nati-1785091653
>>>>>>>> Aug 10, 2016 - Wikileaks editor-in-chief Julian Assange blatantly lied about publishing only the “last four digits” of credit card numbers from democratic donors during an appearance on the HBO show Real Time with Bill Maher on Friday. ... The fact is Wikileaks published dozens of full (and ...
>>>>>>>> Julian Assange: Is he the Messiah of Truth and Transparency or a ...
>>>>>>>> www.dailymail.co.uk/.../Julian-Assange-Is-Messiah-Truth-Transparency-lying-bore-th...
>>>>>>>> Jun 22, 2013 - The little guy, the website's Australian founder Julian Assange, had ... 'He's become a spin doctor, more comfortable telling lies than the truth.
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