Russia hacked US shit-storm dying fast death, real SS on the way.

[Mark Thibodeau]

It's not Russia, it's Putin, and part of what Russia has become after
his nearly 18 years of ruling that nation.



On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 4:21 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Bruno.  Fuck you for the Ayn Rand insult.
>
> Not a corrupt oligarchy?  Journalist aren't killed?  Dissent is open?
>
> I don't hate Russia.  Why would I?  Russia (until this election) has no
> effect on me.  I do feel sorry for Russians.
>
> I suggest you read the NY Mag article I linked to earlier.  Do you think
> this depiction is misleading?
>
> Russia: Life After Trust
> http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/01/lessons-from-putins-russia-for-living-in-trumps-america.html
>
> On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 3:10 PM, Bruno Nogueira <bruno.laze at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Oh boy, you really hate Russia huh. 21st century Ayn Rand.
>> I suggest/insist you listen to the podcast with Prof. Sergei. He
>> deconstructs many beliefs propagated by Western media:
>>
>> http://www.kcrw.com/news-culture/shows/scheer-intelligence/sergei-plekhanov-a-new-chapter-with-russia
>>
>> 2017-01-25 14:24 GMT-06:00 David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> "No Dave, this is not a fascist state under Putin; there is no widespread
>>> scapegoating of any group, no wars of aggression for new territory, regular
>>> elections where opposition parties get reasonable numbers, and criticism and
>>> debate is evident throughout Russia."
>>>
>>> It is a Thug Oligarchy.  Dissent has been effective quashed, including
>>> any real opposition parties.  Putin is popular for some the same
>>> fantasy/resentment reasons Trump is popular (but Putin is much smarter).
>>> Plus, with no opposition Press, who are you going to believe, Putin, or your
>>> lying eyes.
>>>
>>> "Whether Putin killed journalists is a legitimate question."
>>>
>>> No shit  (but who cares? Right? it happens all the time, so let's not get
>>> all high-horse).  And then let's not forget this gem, a most effective
>>> deterrent because of its high profile gruesomeness (but who cares about
>>> spies, right?):
>>>
>>> The murder of former Russian spy Alexander Litvinenko was one of the most
>>> high-profile assassinations of the decade.
>>>
>>> http://digg.com/2016/what-is-polonium
>>>
>>> But I bet you think that was a false-flag play.
>>>
>>> David Morris
>>
>>
>
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