Fwd: Russia hacked US shit-storm dying fast death, real SS on the way.

[Joseph Tracy]

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> From: Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net>
> Subject: Re: Russia hacked US shit-storm dying fast death, real SS on the way.
> Date: January 25, 2017 at 6:58:14 PM EST
> To: rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com>
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> I don’t know enough about the history of this to be very confident. The number I gave was from an interview with Steven Cohen, a professor of Russian studies at NYU and Princeton. I don’t know if I got the wording exactly right but he seemed to me to be saying that from Russian High schools, only 3 of 100 students who went to war survived,or survived without serious wounds. Also Ukraine started the war on the   German side, they had been mistreated by Russia and there was a lot of anti-semitism in Ukraine. Most came to regret the alliance with the Nazis and many were happy to rejoin Russia but there was doubtless great loss of life.
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>> On Jan 25, 2017, at 2:01 PM, rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 1:31 PM, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:
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>>   'One thing that is given virtually no attention in this debate is Russia’s deep wariness of weapons on its borders from the legacy of WW2 where something like 3 out of a hundred Russian males who went to fight returned alive and unwounded.(I’m relying on someone else's numbers and it may be imprecise but the number is  very large and left a large scar on the Russian psyche).'
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>> One quibble in your thoughtful post. I think there is a tendency to equate Soviet with Russia. Much of the eastern front during the war was not fought on Russian soil nor were a good number of its battlefield and civilian deaths Russian, per se (e.g. Ukraine, Byelorussia, those from the far eastern provinces and Siberia, etc.--the ratios of those killed in those areas was probably much higher than in Russia, at least the first two for sure)
>> Every country is still grappling, forgetting, enhancing its own myths about the 2nd world war. Russia isnt any different. 
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