Russia hacked US shit-storm dying fast death, real SS on the way.

[David Morris]

 You:  Basically I agree, but it is a widely popular authoritarian
oligarchy.
Me: Do you know how breezily stupid that statement sounds?

You: There are however aspects of Russian behavior as a nation and apeople
over the long haul of recent history that make calling it fascist, highly
arguable. They gave up one party rule, tore down the wall, and gave freedom
to sattelite states.
Me: Russia was thus so benign? See my question above.  You sound like an
idiot with these statements.

For the rest of your breezy statements on Putin's benign relation to
opposition to his  Thug Oligarchy, just STFU.  You sound like a complete
ass.

David Morris

On Wednesday, January 25, 2017, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:

>
> > On Jan 25, 2017, at 3:24 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> > "No Dave, this is not a fascist state under Putin; there is no
> widespread scapegoating of any group, no wars of aggression for new
> territory, regular elections where opposition parties get reasonable
> numbers, and criticism and debate is evident throughout Russia."
> >
> > It is a Thug Oligarchy.  Dissent has been effective quashed, including
> any real opposition parties.  Putin is popular for some the same
> fantasy/resentment reasons Trump is popular (but Putin is much smarter).
> Plus, with no opposition Press, who are you going to believe, Putin, or
> your lying eyes.
> >
>   Basically I agree, but it is a widely popular authoritarian oligarchy.
> We have a fair dose of oligarchy in the US along with some thuggish
> international behaviors.  There are however aspects of Russian behavior as
> a nation and apeople over the long haul of recent history that make calling
> it fascist, highly arguable. They gave up one party rule, tore down the
> wall, and gave freedom to sattelite states under Gorbechov and Yeltsin.
> Putin has not
> Dissent is common in Russia. Opposition parties exist.  According to a
> 2009 report by Reporters Without Borders in 2009, "the current situation of
> the media in the Russian regions provides grounds for hope as well as for
> concern".[18] The regional print media has been able to maintain a solid
> position as an information resource. However, most publishers shy away from
> politically charged topics in order not to endanger their business. The
> situation is similar in radio where journalist has set up an Internet forum
> in which radio journalists can publish reports that their often strictly
> formatted radio stations refuse to broadcast.[18]
>  Both Steve Cohen and the canadian professor from Russia say that
> traveling in Russia one sees pretty much the same books and magazines from
> a full political spectrum as in the US, plus they get most news , like most
> Americans, from the internet.
> > "Whether Putin killed journalists is a legitimate question."
> >
> > No shit  (but who cares? Right? it happens all the time, so let's not
> get all high-horse).  And then let's not forget this gem, a most effective
> deterrent because of its high profile gruesomeness (but who cares about
> spies, right?):
> That isn’t what I said at all. And I think all killers should be brought
> to justice. Including... all of them.
> >
> > The murder of former Russian spy Alexander Litvinenko was one of the
> most high-profile assassinations of the decade.
> >
> > http://digg.com/2016/what-is-polonium
> >
> > But I bet you think that was a false-flag play.
> >
> > David Morris
>
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