Russia hacked US shit-storm dying fast death, real SS on the way.

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> Again, WTF? Are you serious?  None of these were voluntary gestures.  All of
> these are why Russia is longing for the bad old days.  I can't believe you
> list them as good behavior.

Is Russia, is Putin longing for the good or bad old days? This has
been the narrative peddled by the Obama administration. Every chance
they got, they peddled this idea.

But is there any truth in it? It' doesn't seem to make rational or
logical sense.

But it does fit the propaganda in the US that continues to describe
Russia and Putin with old Soviet propaganda narratives.

The Republicans have used this narrative too, usually against Obama,
claiming that his policies, sanctions...have been too weak, but now
that Obama is out, the Republicans are trying to change the narrative,
while the Democrats and so-called liberals and progressives continue
to recite Obama's narrative.

Obama's narrative often included a personal attack on Putin. In fact
his last move against Russia, supported, though with only a critical
(Obama's too slow and not tough enough) reluctance by the Repubs, has
been characterized in the Press as a personal attack by the out going
president on Putin.

The Republicans have spun the narrative that Obama's too late and too
weak moves against Russia were not only person attacks on Putin, and
demonstrative of Obama's weakness, but also an attack on the incoming
US president, Trump.

What's going on?

The cyberattack questions muddy the waters further.

Maybe that's the point?

Meanwhile, back in Washington, the people are being fleeced by government again.

The retirement age seems headed up again.
The wall will be paid for with taxes on working people. What
combination of taxes is anybody's guess at this point, but the
president, who ran and won on cutting taxes is now talking about
raising them, on Mexican products and so on, and some Ryan scam to tax
working people while reducing their benefits while cutting taxes  for
the rich and the corporate elite.

Not that anyone should be surprised at what the Repubs will do given
the chance, or that the President would use his celebrity to spin it
all against immigrants and Mexico and China, but where does Russia fit
into this new/old spin?

If you think Americans don't know or care about what actually happened
in Ukraine, you are right.
More importantly, Americans don't know or understand much of anything
political these days. That hasn't stop the spin and the press from
making a greater and greater maelstrom, sucking in every bit that the
Internet can bite. The experts that some here have posted are helpful,
that, because in the US experts are not given a voice or listened but
are ridiculed.

America is an anti-intellectual nation. Has been long before Trump.

So many Americans continue to believe that US must be a powerful and
violent Empire. It's like having a rich master.
My master is richer and more powerful than yours. Look at the carnage
of my master. No, not the factories in the rustbelt, in the world. And
we hate the Soviets, ah, the Russians too.  Linda like that Putin
though, on ahorse with no shirt, he looks like a leader. And Trump can
see the power in Puntin's chest and he wants that too.

But what do we get?

Exon Mobil stock options?

Taxes and work and more work and taxes.
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Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l