Jamie McKittrick
jamiemckit at gmail.com
Wed Mar 1 08:33:06 CST 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxNMR5t820s
I mean, look at these. Beautiful things. Sight and sound. It's the future
of yesterday... today!
On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Jesse Gooch <jlgooch at hotmail.com> wrote:
> My favorite thing about ST were the intro graphics. Something about the
> red lines and music was very nice. Reminded me of a lot of VHS rentals in
> the early 90s. The show itself was good but that’s the only intro to a
> show I’ve paid attention to every time I watched it since I was a kid
> watching The Simpsons.
>
> Can’t wait to see T2. Read some criticisms of it that said it’s great,
> but is mostly great because of how well it brings you back into the moments
> of the original – therefore falling into the “gimmicky nostalgia” area of
> The Force Awakens, LaLa Land, and (some say) Stranger Things. Either way,
> I really enjoyed Porno, the book that came after Trainspotting, and even
> though it doesn’t sound like it’s based very much on that book, I am eager
> for it’s American release.
>
>
>
> *From: *<owner-pynchon-l at waste.org> on behalf of John Bailey <
> sundayjb at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Wednesday, March 1, 2017 at 3:42 AM
> *To: *David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
> *Cc: *Kai Frederik Lorentzen <lorentzen at hotmail.de>, Pynchon Mailing List
> <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> *Subject: *<no subject>
>
>
>
> I really enjoyed Stranger Things on initial viewing but in hindsight it's
> a show I dug because of the familiar beats it hits, rather than one that
> dragged me into its own weird world. I was sad to hear that the next season
> continues the same story instead of treating each season as a new chapter
> in a shared universe. But I reckon it also found fans who aren't already
> interested in the stuff it revives (and there are some great performances
> and scenes and everything, I'm not dissing the show).
>
> But nostalgia always feels better first time around*
>
> The most Pynchonesque of TV at the moment I reckon is Mr Robot. Paranoia
> so pervasive it alters the ontological reality of the diegetic frame,
> multiply unreliable narrators, the invocation of the audience as
> co-conspirator from the opening line, hyper-capitalism as both succubus and
> incubus, ones and zeroes falling apart then reforming new logics, the sense
> that anything can happen at any point and we'll just have to deal with
> it... Recommended.
>
> * The Trainspotting sequel T2 is a rare exception. Never seen a sequel
> with such a profound relationship with the original (and it's original
> fans).
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 12:53 AM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> My biggest objection about Stranger Things is that the government bad guys
> at the beginning become the good guys at the end. And the Monster story
> line is so tangential that it barely exists. This show feels as if it were
> written by an improv group, with no plan.
>
>
>
> David Morris
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 3:31 AM Kai Frederik Lorentzen <
> lorentzen at hotmail.de> wrote:
>
>
> "The Montauk Project is every horrible suspicion you've ever had since
> World War II, all the paranoid production values, a vast underground
> facility, exotic weapons, space aliens, time travel, other dimensions,
> shall I go on?" (Bleeding Edge, p. 117)
>
> In *Bleeding Edge*, the Montauk Project is a significant element whose
> ontological status remains unclear; considering the novel's architecture,
> there seems to be a mutual reflecting of 9/11 and Montauk Project.
>
>
> In *Stranger Things*, the Montauk Project is explicitly linked to MK
> Ultra, which as such was real. The serial's way of telling the story, with
> its many Spielbergian references to the 1980s, makes the narration more
> fantasy-like and less political than Pynchon's novel, though.
>
> Eleven kills the Monster:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4dzQ4_MI3s
>
>
> http://www.businessinsider.de/what-inspired-stranger-things-
> montauk-project-2016-9?r=US&IR=T
>
> > ... We've had fun naming all the movies that "Stranger Things" is paying
> homage to, but it's equally fascinating to see how it's playing with
> decades-old government conspiracy theories ... <
>
> Do the Duffer brothers read Pynchon?
>
>
>
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