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rich richard.romeo at gmail.com
Sat Mar 11 19:35:41 CST 2017


you know you would think one of those tech buggers working for the Company
would've read Pynchon and named one of its programs ACHTUNG or something.

rich

On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 2:50 PM, Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at gmail.com> wrote:

> Zeynep Tufekci (NYT) might well have have provided the info contained in a
> Washington Post piece of a day ago to the effect that UMBRAGE material DOES
> offer means to misattribute the source of a hack, but that the vast variety
> of evidence pointing to Russia was overwhelming. I'll look for the piece.
> For what it's worth.
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 1:56 AM, Kai Frederik Lorentzen <
> lorentzen at hotmail.de> wrote:
>
>>
>> play sth down
>> — phrasal verb with play uk *​* /pleɪ/ us *​* /pleɪ/ verb
>> *​*
>>
>> *to make something seem less important or less bad than it really is: *
>> Military spokespeople tried to play down the seriousness of the disaster
>> ...
>>
>> http://dictionary.cambridge.org/de/worterbuch/englisch/play-sth-down
>>
>> (The NYC opinion piece does not even mention Project UMBRAGE.)
>>
>> Am 10.03.2017 um 20:13 schrieb Monte Davis:
>>
>> Foucault, Chomsky, and Fanon at the Council of Elrond:
>> http://existentialcomics.com/comic/175
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 1:34 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The related meme is that this Wiki dump was perfectly timed to support
>>> Trump's claim that Obama tapped his wires.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 11:12 AM Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> How about this from the NY Times:
>>>>
>>>> The media, to its credit, eventually sorts things out
>>>> <https://www.wired.com/2017/03/wikileaks-cia-hack-signal-encrypted-chat-apps/> —
>>>> as it has belatedly started to do with the supposed C.I.A. cache. But by
>>>> then, the initial burst of misinformation has spread. On social media in
>>>> particular, the spin and distortion continues unabated. This time around,
>>>> for example, there are widespread claims on social media that these leaked
>>>> documents show that it was the C.I.A. that hacked the Democratic National
>>>> Committee, and that it framed Russia for the hack. (The documents in the
>>>> cache reveal nothing of the sort.)
>>>>
>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/09/opinion/the-truth-about-t
>>>> he-wikileaks-cia-cache.html?ref=opinion
>>>>
>>>> You have to read the whole thing to get her reasoning.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 10:46 AM, Kai Frederik Lorentzen <
>>>> lorentzen at hotmail.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jamie: "Call me cynical, but I fail to see how any of this wikileaks
>>>> dump is new or surprising information.Of course they are doing that. Have
>>>> been for years ... "
>>>>
>>>> Let me reintroduce the emphasized part of my quote:
>>>>
>>>> > The CIA's Remote Devices Branch's UMBRAGE group collects and
>>>> maintains a substantial library of attack techniques 'stolen' from malware
>>>> produced in other states including the Russian Federation.
>>>>
>>>> With UMBRAGE and related projects the CIA cannot only increase its
>>>> total number of attack types but also misdirect attribution by leaving
>>>> behind the "fingerprints" of the groups that the attack techniques were
>>>> stolen from. <
>>>>
>>>> So "Russian hacking" must in general be considered to be CIA hacking?
>>>> Well, that's OK with me, but ...
>>>>
>>>> Am 09.03.2017 um 17:25 schrieb Jamie Anderson:
>>>>
>>>> Call me cynical, but I fail to see how any of this wikileaks dump is
>>>> new or surprising information. Of course they are doing that. Have been for
>>>> years. What should my response be?
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 1:00 AM, pynchon-l-digest <
>>>> owner-pynchon-l-digest at waste.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> pynchon-l-digest      Wednesday, March 8 2017      Volume 02 : Number
>>>> 13324
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [none]
>>>>
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Date:
>>>> From:
>>>> Subject: [none]
>>>>
>>>> '"Year Zero" introduces the scope and direction of the
>>>> CIA's global covert hacking program, its malware arsenal
>>>> and dozens of "zero day" weaponized exploits against a
>>>> wide range of U.S. and European company products, include
>>>> Apple's iPhone, Google's Android and Microsoft's Windows
>>>> and even Samsung TVs, which are turned into covert
>>>> microphones.'
>>>>
>>>> https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/
>>>>
>>>> The passphrase has some historical significance:
>>>>
>>>> SplinterItIntoAThousandPiecesAndScatterItIntoTheWinds
>>>> -
>>>> Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
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