RIP Chuck Berry

[Jesse Gooch]

I don’t really see what her being a prostitute has to do with it.  She could be a cannibal who fights dogs when she isn’t busy burning churches, and she would still be a child.  If a man sleeps with a prostitute and it happens to be a child, or if he has sex with a child and it is used against him by an inherently racist system, he is still having sex with a child.  It’s not unfair that he went to jail for it, it’s unfair that others should have and didn’t because they didn’t share his status or skin color.


From: Toby Levy <tobyglevy at gmail.com>
Date: Monday, March 20, 2017 at 3:46 PM
To: Jesse Gooch <jlgooch at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: RIP Chuck Berry

The 14 year old girl was a prostitute. After the first mistrial she was arrested in another city for prostitution. Who knows what really happened 50 years ago, but the charge of bringing a minor across state lines to have sex was brought to show an uppity Chuck Berry where he stood in society, not to protect the morals of the girl.

On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 9:13 AM, Jesse Gooch <jlgooch at hotmail.com<mailto:jlgooch at hotmail.com>> wrote:
Did he not have sex with that girl?  Seems like there are several other articles that said he did.  I read a few before posting anything about it to make sure I wasn’t misremembering something.  I don’t doubt for a second that the prosecution was aided by him being a black man, if it had it been Elvis, there would have been no jail time.  Jerry Lee Lewis caught a lot of flack, but never actually went to jail for his child-bride either.  Doesn’t mean he wasn’t having sex with that girl though.

From: Toby Levy <tobyglevy at gmail.com<mailto:tobyglevy at gmail.com>>
Date: Monday, March 20, 2017 at 8:44 AM
To: Jesse Gooch <jlgooch at hotmail.com<mailto:jlgooch at hotmail.com>>
Subject: Re: RIP Chuck Berry

The only reason he went to jail for violating the Mann act was that he was black:

http://heavy.com/entertainment/2017/03/chuck-berry-why-did-go-to-prison-jail-sentence-in-1960s-violate-mann-act-prostitution-tax-evasion/
And the bathroom videotaping was a stupid thing to do but hardly rises to the charge of pedophilia.
He was a great creative artist in the 1950s. He was not a great human being. But not a reprehensible villain.

On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 1:58 AM, Jesse Gooch <jlgooch at hotmail.com<mailto:jlgooch at hotmail.com>> wrote:
I was in prison with some child molesters that could paint beautiful paintings, but they were pedophiles, not artists. I don’t disagree that Chuck Berry was a great musician.  He was incredibly talented and influential, but I feel like taping women while they shit in his restaurant, and having sex with 14-year-old girls, negates most of what a person does.
I’m weird like that.

On 3/20/17, 1:47 AM, "owner-pynchon-l at waste.org<mailto:owner-pynchon-l at waste.org> on behalf of Thomas Eckhardt" <owner-pynchon-l at waste.org<mailto:owner-pynchon-l at waste.org> on behalf of thomas.eckhardt at uni-bonn.de<mailto:thomas.eckhardt at uni-bonn.de>> wrote:

    Am 20.03.2017 um 03:33 schrieb Jesse Gooch:

    > Yeah, and after doing all of that travelling he got wealthy enough to secretly videotape women going to the bathroom.  Kind of a scumbag.

    Yes. Also a great artist.
    -
    Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l


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