Not Pynchon just paranoia

David Morris fqmorris at gmail.com
Tue May 9 18:18:48 CDT 2017


This theory is completely ridiculous.  The CIA ain't God, and only she
could have brought forth the 60's.

On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 9:05 AM Bruno <bruno.laze at gmail.com> wrote:

> Would you say that human agency can be that coordinated? For CIA to
> engineer such an elaborate cultural strategy, it would require dozens of
> submissive individuals who wouldn't spoil the plans not even once along the
> way.
>
> For instance Abstract Expressionism was funded by CIA. That's it. *Funded.
> *It doesn't mean Pollock was a spy. Even so, this was a soft power tool
> for the Cold War.
>
>
> http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20161004-was-modern-art-a-weapon-of-the-cia
>
>
> 2017-05-09 7:11 GMT-05:00 Allan Balliett <allan.balliett at gmail.com>:
>
>> I truly wish I could believe that all the old CIA documentation was made
>> public but, of course, that's a foolish wish. What's bothering me most
>> right now is a podcast I heard this weekend from THE LIMINALIST
>> http://auticulture.com/liminalist-111-tool-tyrants-jan-irvin/
>>
>> This gist of which was that the entire Youth Culture of the 60's was
>> socially engineered by the CIA and their worldwide cohorts. It goes on to
>> say that not only the Beats (who is it that could actually believe that
>> Burroughs was NOT a double agent?) but the very Beatles themselves were
>> witting tools of a CIA masterminded social program. To believe for one
>> moment that the music and poetry of my youth was actually funded and
>> created by think tanks created by my grandfather's generation is really too
>> much to bear. (It's gets worse, he asserts that the whole 'ethneogen'
>> movement, past and present, has been manufactured and spun to the benefit
>> of THEM.)
>>
>> Podcast description from the home page:
>>
>> Conversation with Jan Irvin on what’s in a name and suggestogens, the
>>> John Allegro attacks, Wasson & CIA, overturning the entire field of
>>> ethnobotany, Peter Levenda & Trine Day as disinformation peddlers, being
>>> surrounded by dissemblers, a circle jerk of citations, from psychedelics to
>>> entheogens, mind-manifestations, recreating the fall of man, gnosis as ego
>>> inflation, the Trivium, Terence McKenna & MKULTRA, sixty years of CIA rock
>>> music, Aztec hippies, psychedelics and blood sacrifice, Jan’s Empowerment
>>> rule # 6, the CIA’s road to hell, a conversation between Aldous Huxley &
>>> Timothy Leary, reverse-engineered society, the Internal Affairs of Alt
>>> Media, the classical Trivium, the tool of tyrants, Daniel Pinchbeck’s
>>> connections, spiritual gurus for the CIA, channeling Uranus, how Jan weeds
>>> out the witting agents from the willful dupes.
>>
>>
>> It is stated in the show notes that it has been long known that 'students
>> of the music hall movement' (there should be special punctuation for
>> indicating that you are copying from your own possibly faulty memory)
>> "opened doors,' etc, for the Beatles to become the success that they did.
>>
>> No doubt.
>> ain't
>> -Allan in WV  where we don't care if it's brainwashing, just put Revolver
>> on one more time
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 5:02 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> *Open Culture (@openculture
>>> <https://twitter.com/openculture?refsrc=email&s=11>)*
>>>
>>> 5/9/17, 2:37 AM
>>> <https://twitter.com/openculture/status/861832444118417408?refsrc=email&s=11>
>>> 12 Million Declassified CIA Documents Now Free Online: Secret Tunnels,
>>> UFOs, Psychic Experiments & More bit.ly/2k9byPP
>>> <https://t.co/JCapGvAj1w> pic.twitter.com/IyNKxieYhp
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>>>
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>>
>>
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