Not Pynchon just paranoia

[Thomas Eckhardt]

Am 09.05.2017 um 17:04 schrieb Bruno:

 >For instance Abstract Expressionism was funded by CIA. That's it. 
Funded. It doesn't mean Pollock was a spy. Even so, this was a soft 
power tool for the Cold War.<

Yes.

Frances Stonor Saunders makes clear in her book that most 
writers/artists had no idea that their work was funded by the CIA.

As an aside: According to Jarett Kobek's enjoyably Vonnegutesque "i hate 
the internet", the CIA also created the idea of the *good novel* when it 
funded the "Paris Review", the Iowa Writer's Workshop and engineered the 
1958 Nobel Prize in Literature...


On 09.05.17 17:04, Bruno wrote:
> Would you say that human agency can be that coordinated? For CIA to 
> engineer such an elaborate cultural strategy, it would require dozens of 
> submissive individuals who wouldn't spoil the plans not even once along 
> the way.
> 
> For instance Abstract Expressionism was funded by CIA. That's it. 
> /Funded. /It doesn't mean Pollock was a spy. Even so, this was a soft 
> power tool for the Cold War.
> 
> http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20161004-was-modern-art-a-weapon-of-the-cia
> 
> 
> 2017-05-09 7:11 GMT-05:00 Allan Balliett <allan.balliett at gmail.com 
> <mailto:allan.balliett at gmail.com>>:
> 
>     I truly wish I could believe that all the old CIA documentation was
>     made public but, of course, that's a foolish wish. What's bothering
>     me most right now is a podcast I heard this weekend from THE
>     LIMINALIST
>     http://auticulture.com/liminalist-111-tool-tyrants-jan-irvin/
>     <http://auticulture.com/liminalist-111-tool-tyrants-jan-irvin/>
> 
>     This gist of which was that the entire Youth Culture of the 60's was
>     socially engineered by the CIA and their worldwide cohorts. It goes
>     on to say that not only the Beats (who is it that could actually
>     believe that Burroughs was NOT a double agent?) but the very Beatles
>     themselves were witting tools of a CIA masterminded social program.
>     To believe for one moment that the music and poetry of my youth was
>     actually funded and created by think tanks created by my
>     grandfather's generation is really too much to bear. (It's gets
>     worse, he asserts that the whole 'ethneogen' movement, past and
>     present, has been manufactured and spun to the benefit of THEM.)
> 
>     Podcast description from the home page:
> 
>         Conversation with Jan Irvin on what’s in a name and
>         suggestogens, the John Allegro attacks, Wasson & CIA,
>         overturning the entire field of ethnobotany, Peter Levenda &
>         Trine Day as disinformation peddlers, being surrounded by
>         dissemblers, a circle jerk of citations, from psychedelics to
>         entheogens, mind-manifestations, recreating the fall of man,
>         gnosis as ego inflation, the Trivium, Terence McKenna & MKULTRA,
>         sixty years of CIA rock music, Aztec hippies, psychedelics and
>         blood sacrifice, Jan’s Empowerment rule # 6, the CIA’s road to
>         hell, a conversation between Aldous Huxley & Timothy Leary,
>         reverse-engineered society, the Internal Affairs of Alt Media,
>         the classical Trivium, the tool of tyrants, Daniel Pinchbeck’s
>         connections, spiritual gurus for the CIA, channeling Uranus, how
>         Jan weeds out the witting agents from the willful dupes.
> 
> 
>     It is stated in the show notes that it has been long known that
>     'students of the music hall movement' (there should be special
>     punctuation for indicating that you are copying from your own
>     possibly faulty memory) "opened doors,' etc, for the Beatles to
>     become the success that they did.
> 
>     No doubt.
> 
>     -Allan in WV  where we don't care if it's brainwashing, just put
>     Revolver on one more time
> 
> 
>     On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 5:02 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com
>     <mailto:mark.kohut at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>         	*Open Culture (@openculture
>         <https://twitter.com/openculture?refsrc=email&s=11>)*
>         5/9/17, 2:37 AM
>         <https://twitter.com/openculture/status/861832444118417408?refsrc=email&s=11>
>         12 Million Declassified CIA Documents Now Free Online: Secret
>         Tunnels, UFOs, Psychic Experiments & More bit.ly/2k9byPP
>         <https://t.co/JCapGvAj1w> pic.twitter.com/IyNKxieYhp
>         <https://t.co/IyNKxieYhp>
> 
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