NP - It Was the Racism (not economics)
Robert Mahnke
rpmahnke at gmail.com
Mon Nov 20 22:16:41 CST 2017
This piece by Adam Serwer is worthy of your time, and not unrelated to what
we're talking about:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/11/the-nationalists-delusion/546356/
On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 7:56 PM, Chris v <traditionalgb at gmail.com> wrote:
> I assumed you were intelligent enough to make the inference
>
> On 20 Nov 2017 9:40 pm, "David Morris" <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Too many links w no synopsis or click bait headlines. Give a little more
>> effort if you expect a response.
>> My unsolicited advice.
>>
>> David Morris
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 9:26 PM Chris v <traditionalgb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> It hurts cuz I like mother jones, but come on.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.forbes.com/sites/aviksaroy/2016/11/19/man-bites-
>>> dog-trump-did-better-with-minorities-than-mitt-romney-did-in-2012/
>>> <https://www.forbes.com/sites/aviksaroy/2016/11/19/man-bites-dog-trump-did-better-with-minorities-than-mitt-romney-did-in-2012/>
>>>
>>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2016/11/
>>> 11/trump-got-more-votes-from-people-of-color-than-romney-
>>> did-heres-the-data/
>>>
>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/2016-election-day/trump-
>>> did-better-blacks-hispanics-romney-12-exit-polls-n681386
>>>
>>> http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/11/09/behind-trump
>>> s-victory-divisions-by-race-gender-education/
>>>
>>> On 20 Nov 2017 6:43 pm, "David Morris" <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Esdall:
>>>>
>>>> In some respects, the data gathered by Orfield’s team is good news for
>>>> Democrats. The core of Trump’s support lies in counties and municipalities
>>>> like Dravosburg and Elk County, many of which are losing population. They
>>>> are, in effect, the last gasp of white hegemony.
>>>> [...]
>>>> what is really striking is how much influence over the course of events
>>>> was exercised by the relatively small numbers of voters in super-white
>>>> municipalities and counties and by the politician who ignited them —
>>>> how the last gasp of a small fraction of the electorate set the nation on
>>>> such a dangerous and destructive course.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 6:17 PM Robert Mahnke <rpmahnke at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> At the risk of stating the obvious, Romney got 47.2% of the vote and
>>>>> Trump got only 46.1%. (Numbers per Wikipedia, which never makes mistakes.)
>>>>> So if one is trying to look for reasons that Trump won, looking at where he
>>>>> outperformed Romney doesn't quite go to the question, although it's not a
>>>>> worthless inquiry. Where Trump really outperformed was in the Electoral
>>>>> College.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 3:49 PM, Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> MJ's piece was entirely based on the Thomas B. Esdall piece, which
>>>>>> was a prime example of what-put-Trump-over-the-top-ism.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A lot of things put Trump over the top.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Socking it to the Elite is my favorite.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 5:44 PM, Atticus Pinecone <
>>>>>> atticuspinecone at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Right, what's the link there? White people feel that way? There's no
>>>>>>> poll. Seems like a bit of a leap.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And NPR told me it was dumb poor white people voting for Trump...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've been reading MJ for almost a decade, they've taken a weird turn
>>>>>>> ever since this last election :^(
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 20, 2017, at 4:55 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Um, the article said this:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *"Anger*, fear and animosity toward immigrants and minorities"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's his thesis. Makes sense to me. "Economic Anxiety" was just
>>>>>>> an excuse.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> David Morris
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 2:16 PM, Atticus Pinecone <
>>>>>>> atticuspinecone at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How does racism work in? Their skin color?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Nov 20, 2017, at 2:52 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/11/heres-how-the-
>>>>>>>> residents-of-super-white-america-voted-in-2016/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "In most places, even those that are heavily white, Trump won a
>>>>>>>> smaller share of the vote than Romney did. The only places where he
>>>>>>>> outperformed Romney were in the very whitest suburbs and small towns.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Put another way, anger, fear and animosity toward immigrants and
>>>>>>>> minorities was most politically potent in the communities most insulated
>>>>>>>> from these supposed threats."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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