Gore V & Pynchon

[Erik T. Burns]

>Somewhat of a lost Gaddis masterpiece is the collection "The Rush for
Second Place", which contains his original notes for "Agape Agape", >which
are fucking fascinating and brilliant.

Gaddis' lifelong obsession with the player piano, mechanization and the
loss of the human in art/work makes its way into all of his books, the
final joke being (Stop Player!) that his final book is in fact the one
referred to or being worked on by characters (most notably Gibbs in J R) in
the other books.

see this:
http://quarterlyconversation.com/william-gaddis-the-recognitions-j-r



On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 7:42 PM, Douglas Holm <dkholm at mac.com> wrote:

> Thanks!  I'll join. Love Gaddis. Recently I've been reading his letters
> and a bio of the writer.
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> On Oct 9, 2017, at 11:32 AM, bulb <bulb at vheissu.net> wrote:
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> gaddis-l at yahoogroups.com
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> Very low volume.
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> *From:* owner-pynchon-l at waste.org [mailto:owner-pynchon-l at waste.org
> <owner-pynchon-l at waste.org>] *On Behalf Of *Douglas Holm
> *Sent:* maandag 9 oktober 2017 18:41
> *To:* Mark Thibodeau <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>; Mark Kohut <
> mark.kohut at gmail.com>; pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org>; Brad Andrews <
> braden.andrews at gmail.com>; Christopher Kerr <christopherker at gmail.com>;
> Mark M. <pov at ix.netcom.com>; Mark Levine <leevyne at aol.com>
> *Subject:* Re: Gore V & Pynchon
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> Is there a Gaddis list serv?
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> On Oct 9, 2017, at 4:41 AM, Mark Thibodeau <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Somewhat of a lost Gaddis masterpiece is the collection "The Rush for
> Second Place", which contains his original notes for "Agape Agape", which
> are fucking fascinating and brilliant.
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> Jerky
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> On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 2:50 PM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> Not to wander off-thread, but is there a similar place where we might
> discuss the works of William Gaddis. *JR* was perhaps my fave novel of
> his, but *The Recognitions* and *A Frolic of His Own *are masterpieces,
> IMHO. I think that my favorites are The Recognitions and JR, but A Frolic
> is so hilarious that it cannot be lightly dismissed. It's a little bit like
> Catch 22. It's too preposterous to take seriously, but it's so real that
> you just know this is the underbelly of what happened with the
> lawsuit-industry.
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> Arthur
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> On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 2:27 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
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> "By 1945, with the defeat of Germany in the east and of
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> japan in the west, the American Empire was at high noon,
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> its emblem not the eagle but the death-seeding phallic cloud."
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>                -Gore V. "Fire Over England' in Screening History, 1992, p
> 37.
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> Ole V, who famously 'hated' GR but musta loved the begiinning
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> or the genital-shaped cloud image re THE BOMB later.....
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> or else came up with his own image independently.
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> Anyway, nice.
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> --
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> Arthur
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