P-list Desperate Desires

da kid peterock86 at live.com
Wed Oct 25 13:44:42 CDT 2017


I've searched through the archives a bit and enjoy finding out other interpretations of parts of Against the Day and Mason and Dixon. And yeah, most everybody had something smart to say. The reading group for Mason and Dixon back when it first came out is really great. The user Andrew Dinn really had some outstanding insights into the book.  As far as "flame wars" go, that's the last thing I'd want to waste my time with and u don't feel like I missed out in anything there.
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From: owner-pynchon-l at waste.org <owner-pynchon-l at waste.org> on behalf of Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 8:06:43 AM
To: David Morris
Cc: P-list
Subject: Re: P-list Desperate Desires

Yeah, nothing like the 'good old days', that golden age (myth) in every culture and group.

I wasn't there then but what seemed to last best was everyone's (who is still here) love of the flaming wars.

There have been good group readings since, full of ideas; full of many who knew the archives whether
they had participated or 'studied' them. And read books about Pynchon; and read history and research
since 'the golden age'. And tried to add to and go beyond. I think the later group reads I know stopped
because no one fucking cared enough; maybe it takes hot burning egos to keep it going,
another Pynchon insight probably.

'F*c* the golden age, he says flamingly.
In fact, I think Pynchon's vision might be that the golden age is always the present,
ungolden as it always is.

Read and talk about Pynchon's M & D NOW, with whatever one can bring.

Or keep talking about when.

Mark

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 11:31 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com<mailto:fqmorris at gmail.com>> wrote:
No P-list group read has ever finished without breakdown.  But the early days of this list were much more engaged on many more intellectual levels than now.  Egos flew high then, and burned hot. As it devolved, factions formed, and then dissolved again.  Often via death, or psychic breaks. But ideas ran high then.  Go study the archives. And have fun!

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