Another Pynchon theme manifesting again in the real world.

David Morris fqmorris at gmail.com
Mon Sep 4 16:35:13 CDT 2017


I only push this because Pynchon does, and it needs context.  For P,
Anarchy goes back to GRs Zone, a place of crazy freedom in wake of total
collapse, which can't be sustained.  It is not a model of sustained living,
despite AGD's silly golf game.  It is a very short-lived thing.

David Morris

On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 4:16 PM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:

> So your anarchism jag isn't a real proscription.  It is a plaything.  A
> Pynchon fanboy thing.
>
> David Morris
>
> On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 3:57 PM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Anarchism as I wrote about it here is working with whatever, jumping in
>> spontaneously before or with  FEMA HELP and FEMA is goddam necessary OR
>> ELSE. ...More incalculable deaths and reams of suffering and hurt.
>>
>> I wrote " part" of....not as a guiding political philosophy, like
>> libertarianism, which is  perhaps the exact opposite of helping ANYONE but
>> oneself. ...anarchism allows selflessness.
>>
>> I just read a decent piece about the horrible tornado in Kansas, killing
>> more than Harvey has, and the gist was FEMA was invaluable for money (paid
>> 90% of clean-up cost) and worked best when "spontaneous groups" --like
>> churches-- local leaders and Orgs were the go-to ones for advice and
>> disbursement.
>>
>> And I'm a big Govt " liberal" myself. Who loves selfless helping and
>> dancing. Esp in musicals.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 4, 2017, at 1:59 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Anarchism is akin to Libertarianism: freedumb from guvmint!
>>
>> Imagine a world in Houston without FEMA!  Such a dream!
>>
>> And no interstate highways!  And no EPA!  And no Medicare or Social
>> Security!
>>
>> You may sat I'm a dreamer, but they're about to be deported.
>>
>> David Morris
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 11:48 AM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Anarchism. Pervasive as we know (and been written about).
>>>
>>> Anarchism, not as any kind of policy or new government notion but
>>> precisely as getting shit done *without* government, *outside of it. *
>>>
>>> The natural way hundreds of thousands of simple citizens
>>> "self-organized"--
>>> this is the key,-- like the deaf-mute dance under the bridge where
>>> everyone
>>> dances together without bumping with no one having to direct the
>>> dancing--
>>> like the search and rescue and help operation in Houston after Harvey.
>>>
>>> Since a guy named Prince wrote about the "spontaneous groupings" of
>>> volunteer
>>> help after the Halifax explosion disaster , it has always been a part of
>>> every disaster
>>> since. They say.
>>>
>>> Spontaneous groupings = self-organizing= equal apolitical, non-violent
>>> anarchism in
>>> the real world.
>>>
>>
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