from a Paris Review interview with Stephen Greenblatt, new book on Adam & Eve.

[Tomas De Minos]

Aronofsky's Noah veered post-apocalyptic and pre-historical simultaneously.
He dabbled in Judeo-Christian mysticism, hinting that the sons of Seth (as
in
Gnosticism) worshiped the serpent--hence the snake skin acting as covenant.

Noah may have also been the first major Bible-flick in which a prophet
drinks
a psychedelic brew ala Ayahuasca, Soma, Hoama, manna, kykeon, etc, etc.
Darren Aronosky seemed to draw heavily from the Dead Sea Scrolls and the
Book of Enoch.

On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 9:19 PM, John Bailey <sundayjb at gmail.com> wrote:

> Only really got the Biblical stuff after too - very overt on
> reflection, to the point of being overdone. Much better as a
> reflection on the arrogance and destruction wrought by the artist's
> ego, but also works well as a meditation on patriarchy. And the
> director has said it's largely about climate change which I didn't
> even consider. So many levels! In such a weird-ass package!
> His previous film Noah was just as strange, if only because it's a
> 100% sincere Old Testament movie with no irony whatsoever.
>
> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 10:59 AM, Laura Kelber <laurakelber at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Saw it and, yes, it's definitely worth seeing. I agree that it was 20 or
> so
> > minutes too long. The final bit of dialogue was a little too overt.
> >
> > Only got the biblical interpretation from reading the reviews
> afterwards. It
> > also works as a meditation on the creative process.
> >
> > Laura
> >
> > On Sep 28, 2017 8:14 PM, "John Bailey" <sundayjb at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Has there been any mention of Darren Aronofsky's new film Mother!
> >> here? Very Biblical allegory. Seems like one a bunch of P-listers
> >> would enjoy, ie it's totally effing bonkers. While watching it I
> >> couldn't tell if it was brilliant or really really terrible, but you
> >> definitely need to discuss it afterwards, all of which makes for a
> >> recommendation. Although be warned - it could have been cut by 20
> >> minutes, and there's at least one awful moment that will test the
> >> mettle of most viewers.
> >>
> >> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 5:15 AM, Allan Balliett
> >> <allan.balliett at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Did she have some place where he could put it?
> >> >
> >> > -Allan in WV, where we think of this sort of things if we aren't
> getting
> >> > enough opioids
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 2:07 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> “It occurred to him then that his penis was somehow not quite his
> own,
> >> >> that it was Eve’s bone.”
> >> >
> >> >
> >> -
> >> Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?listpynchon-l
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