M & D Group Read (cont)

[Keith Davis]

Great stuff. Tagging along at the edge here...

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> On Jan 8, 2018, at 6:01 PM, Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Doesn't it even answer I Kant? 
> 
>> On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 4:51 PM, Monte Davis <montedavis49 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 404 Categorical imperative not found
>> 
>>> On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 4:47 PM, Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Do siri, alexa, and cortana respond to moral questions?
>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 2:55 PM, Monte Davis <montedavis49 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> "One of the Enigmata of the Invisible World, is how a Voice unlocaliz’d may yet act powerfully as a moral Center." (666)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 12:32 PM, Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Date:	Sat, 24 Jan 1998 11:00:35 -0500 (EST) 
>>>>> From:	Paul Mackin 
>>>>> To:	pynchon-l@[omitted] 
>>>>> Subject: The E-word 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Below are my notes on the occurence of "edge" in M&D.
>>>>> Have no way of knowing how much underreporting there is.
>>>>> I read the book from start to finish and made a note
>>>>> whenever the word jumped out at me. As far as the most common
>>>>> usage of the word is concerned it would seem if anything that
>>>>> P is quite reticent, i.e., "edge" would occur with greater
>>>>> frequency  in average writing. However P's exotic usage of the
>>>>> word seems ABOVE average in frequency. This is just gut reaction. I
>>>>> haven't done any analysis.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 			P.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 10  It took me till I was lying among he Rats and Vermin, upon the freezing
>>>>> edge of a Future invisible, to understand that my name had never been my own,__
>>>>> 24  How is he  suppossed to ignore this pure Edge of blood-love?
>>>>> 34  --the Cold of apprpaching Night carrying an edge, the possiblity that
>>>>> by
>>>>> Morning the Weather will be quite brisk indeed . . .
>>>>> 62   Somehwat as his Neighbors each strenuous Sunday profers belief in the
>>>>> Great Struggle at the End of the World
>>>>> 93   Briefly we behold the gray edge of a cloud of despair . . .
>>>>> 110  Rol-ling out the Elkdge-ware Ro-od,--
>>>>> 121  'Tis the British Way to take the extra step that may one day give us an
>>>>> Edge when we need one
>>>>> 137  "What?" Mason begins to edge toward the Tent opening.
>>>>> 132 Maskelyne's voice, in such times of stress, edges toward a throat-bas'd
>>>>> Soprano
>>>>> 160  He was quite distraugh, and but a pace or two from the Edge of the
>>>>> precipice.
>>>>> 171  She put upon her R the same vigorous Edge, as his father on a difficult
>>>>> day,--
>>>>> 172 Maskelyne's Observing Suit is edging into Visability.
>>>>> 219  Over Wearside, here at Nightfall, exactly upon this Edge between sunlight too bright to see much by and . . .
>>>>> 264 "My point exactly!" cries Ethelmer, who had been edging toward the
>>>>> Spirits, mindful that at some point he shall have to edge past his cousin
>>>>> Tenebrae.
>>>>> 271  is slowly absorb'd into a mirthful Cloud of tartan-edg'd Emerald
>>>>> Green and luminous Coral Taffeta.
>>>>> 273  . . . sentimental ever held back even at the Edge of breaking forth, in 
>>>>> Fragments, as Glass breaks.
>>>>> 309  . . . the dogs run obssessibely to and fro, all 'round the Edges,
>>>>> faces a-twist with Efforts to understand
>>>>> 324  by which if he kept to a Fiduciary Edge of Right Procedure, he might 
>>>>> profit, whilst retaining his Sanity.
>>>>> 329 . . . will have found its way by the poundful up the nostrils and
>>>>> into the brains of these by then alert youths, lending a feverish edge
>>>>> to all they  speak and do.
>>>>> 337  . . . suggesting locating the exact center of New Castle by taking
>>>>> a sheet of paper showing a map of the Town, trimming 'round the edges
>>>>> til only the Town remains, . . .
>>>>> 338  . . . , but fifteen years ago in the era of Don Vicente Lopez, there
>>>>> was an apprehenisve Edge in this Town as soon as the Sun went down,
>>>>> that . . .
>>>>> 345 He sets his Lips as for a conventional, or Toroidal, Smoke_Ring, but out
>>>>> instead comes a Ring like a Length of Ribbon clos'd in a Circle, with a
>>>>> single Twist in it, possessing thereby but one Side and one Edge . . .
>>>>> (elipsis in  original)
>>>>> 354  Then one has Mr. Edgewise . . . . (eilips in orig.)
>>>>> 383  A close observer, did one attend, might see him begin to flicker
>>>>> 'round the edges.
>>>>> 387  Taking what seems far too long, he peers up and down the newly
>>>>> glitt'ring Edge, . . .
>>>>> 387  She is so flabber-gasting this Macaroni with it that he seems to fall
>>>>> into a contemplative Daze before the deep Undulations, a Dreamer at the
>>>>> Edge of the Sea.
>>>>> 387  I am become a Target for his Instruments edg'd and pointed.
>>>>> 395  There is an Edge to Young Romance, this year, that none of those
>>>>> testing its Sharpness may recoginize, quite yet.
>>>>> 396  Three young Ladies are peeping 'round the 'Door-way, like shorebirds
>>>>> at the edge of the Water, stepping nicely in and out of that Aura of
>>>>> Tobacco-Smoke that Men for centluries have understood keeps women away
>>>>> as well as were they Bug
>>>>> 401  We've seen 'em all, all manner of Traveler, saints and sinners, green
>>>>> and season'd some who could teach Eels to wriggle and some who were pure
>>>>> fiduciary Edge, and I'll tell you, this one . . . I don't know.
>>>>> 403  The Telescpe stands in its own Window'd Observatory at the Top of
>>>>> the House, before it the Edge of the River, . . .
>>>>> 406  The tone balanc'd upon a Blade's Edge, between Pity and Contempt.
>>>>> 415 Whereupon a golden Edge of Pleasure proceeds to bisect him upwardly
>>>>> all the way from his Ballocks to his heart, which these days is a
>>>>> lengthy journey.
>>>>> 416 advised by friend and enemy that his only decent course would be to
>>>>> step off the Edge of the World.--
>>>>> 423 "What, this? 'tis a Tub, Sir." Hoping the Echo may give him and Edge.
>>>>> 450  "Why are you all edging away from me like that?"
>>>>> 441  . . . curiously prostrated before the chunk of Rose Quartz where
>>>>> cross the Latitude of the south Edge of Philadelphia . . . 
>>>>> 485  then returning to this Radiance that flares from behind edges of
>>>>> Shapes uncertain,--
>>>>> 517  reaching with her arms, run to the roof's edge and into the Air, . .
>>>>> 528  . . . tho their Wonderful Telegraph gives them in that Article
>>>>> an Edge over the rest of Christendom, . . .
>>>>> 545 .. .  for the struggle Zarpazo and I must enact upon the very mortal
>>>>> Edge of this great Torrent of Sha,--
>>>>> 561  . . . then at the edges of my vision, Blurs appear'd, . . .
>>>>> 577 . . . Ev'rybody's feeling edgy.
>>>>> 589 --flowing up over the edge . . . indeed, it keeps coming for longer
>>>>> than it should.
>>>>> 592  . . . with hundreds of firmly attach'd sword-quality Blades, whose
>>>>> hone edges flicker with sanguinary light.
>>>>> 594  looking for someone who can help him out of the edg'd ,and now
>>>>> perhaps even venomous, iron weapon he is wearing.
>>>>> 597  The breeze has a cold edge.
>>>>> 601  Yet removing Trees to create a pair of perfectly straight Edges,
>>>>> is to invite Sha, . . .
>>>>> 638  form up at the western edge of town, . . .
>>>>> 650 --thro' some Energy  unknown, ever are we haunted by the Edge
>>>>> so precise, so near.
>>>>> 553  as if they liv'd at the edge of some great lighted Sky-Structure, 
>>>>> 692  Smugglers of Tobacco, Dye-stuffs, and edg'd Implements flee their
>>>>> Storage-Cabins in the middle of the night,
>>>>> 697  at which point the Enterpriser has edg'd his way as far as the door.
>>>>> 704  saw at the edges of Rooms from the corners of Eyes, shouted to up
>>>>> or down a Visto.
>>>>> 746  As if here, at the Edge of the World,
>>>>> 752  The Fret has gather'd in the waste places, cross'd them, and come
>>>>> to the Edge of the Town.
>>>>> 754 Busy withd rebellion, America drew back toward the edges of Dixon's
>>>>> Frame, where the shadows gather'd.
>>>>> 758  and so she turn'd terrible, as she had ever been a shadow's Edge away
>>>>> from doing anyway.
>>>>> 766  At the last of the Day-light, providentially, at the Edge of York, 
>>>>> they smell wood-smoke with a sensible Fat Component, 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 4:42 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> in the chapters around the LED, there are lots of
>>>>>> animal references. Ape. The LED lusting after blood
>>>>>> at Cock-Fights. "How is he supposed to ignore this Edge of blood-love?"--another Bleeding Edge allusion
>>>>>> and the edge itself--not around the edges as Joseph recently noted ---
>>>>>> is another hard geometric bad shit trope in Pynchon. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> "Back at the Cock-Fights", Fender-Belly Bodine.....I seem to just now notice that the Cock-Fights were ongoing
>>>>>> fictionally in the whole chapter...a backdrop of the whole LED section....
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> There are the lines about the LED being like a human. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In the wake of the Age of Reason, with the LED as the synecdoche,
>>>>>> it seems Pynchon wants to remind us--delightfully, of course, yet fully---that we
>>>>>> are still animals, enjoying Cock-Fights---"that Substance which we are not
>>>>>> supposed to acknowledge drips and flies 'ev'rywhere.." Humans, like the LED,
>>>>>> will not acknowledge the blood upon which their lives rest. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In a notional associative way, I remember that luxury liner in AtD which is also
>>>>>> a battleship albeit unknown to the luxury travelers. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What was that line some Big Political Leader Guy said, last century, when asked 
>>>>>> about the salutary effects of The Enlightenment on the world? 
>>>>>> "I'm still waiting to see it." (very paraphrased and shaky memory) 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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