M & D Group Read (cont)
Mark Kohut
mark.kohut at gmail.com
Wed Jan 10 16:11:35 CST 2018
Saucy bit.....a Cherry Coke.
https://twitter.com/historyinmoment/status/951207738981404673
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:24 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
> "sermonlike with saucy bits thrown in."
>
> Like a cherry Coke drink of American narratives...."Things go better with
> Coke"
>
>
> Not even a reliable coke-like history..."I'd like to buy the world a
> Coke", says the admittedly unreliable narrator.
> "The pause that refreshes".....
> Very early slogan, 1922---"Thirst knows no season"....
>
> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 10:28 AM, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:
>
>> Very interesting about German; I didn’t know, and never noticed about
>> the different use of capitals; it's so easy to see only what you are
>> looking for.
>> As is indicated here, neither rules of capitalization nor standard
>> spellings were in place in M&D’s time. There is a voice to Cherrycoke, sort
>> of sermonlike with saucy bits thrown in. I find it helps me to try to read
>> a sentence out loud occasionally and listen for the shift of tone, the
>> aside, the potential humorous jab. When I really hear this voice it slows
>> down my reading pace but seems to facilitate understanding. In my view
>> Ccoke is pretty much Pynchon grounded in his own private religion doing
>> stand-up story telling in the 18th Century, but with sly references to his
>> audience in the 20th C.
>> I would be interested to hear how others hear or listen for Ccoke’s
>> voice.
>>
>> > On Jan 10, 2018, at 2:05 AM, Jochen Stremmel <jstremmel at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > A-and surely not "common".
>> >
>> > 2018-01-09 22:39 GMT+01:00 Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>:
>> > realm is not a place. not an 'important noun".
>> >
>> > Hart recommended his readers to use a capital letter at the beginning
>> of every sentence, proper name, and important common noun. By the 17th
>> century, the practice had extended to titles (Sir, Lady), forms of address
>> (Father, Mistris), and personified nouns (Nature). Emphasized words and
>> phrases would also attract a capital. By the beginning of the 18th century,
>> the influence of Continental books had caused this practice to be extended
>> still further (e.g. to the names of the branches of knowledge), and it was
>> not long before some writers began using a capital for any noun that they
>> felt to be important. Books appeared in which all or most nouns were given
>> an initial capital (as is done systematically in modern German) - perhaps
>> for aesthetic reasons, or perhaps because printers were uncertain about
>> which nouns to capitalize, and so capitalized them all.
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 3:55 PM, Gene DA <genevievej.da at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Which Speculation am I all ears for! One of my questions thus far being
>> a curiosity about the capitalization; rhyme, reason, or madness? There
>> seemed to be a drop-off in capitalization frequency after the first couple
>> of chapters. At first, I assumed it was only a time period custom and left
>> speculation on patterns for later. I was pronouncing sentences as I read
>> with so much alternating emphasis that it was much too distracting.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 4:03 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > yes, the early LED chapter is VERY IMPORTANT
>> > in setting out major themes of M & D, as Smoke said.
>> >
>> > Notice it is the LED---this true historical charlatan of
>> > the time, this dog who is like humans, who
>> > "Somehow the Learned dog has led him [Mason] to presume
>> > there exist safe-conduct Procedures for the realm
>> > of Death." [Why is realm not capped?, I ask, having a Speculation to
>> Hand]
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
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