NP-Amitav Ghosh

[Keith Davis]

Read it! Great information and great writing.


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> On Jan 11, 2018, at 4:51 PM, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:
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> A bit more on the book. It is divided into 3 sections: Stories, History, Politics. I’m in the History section now and there is some very interesting information especially as to why and how colonial empires suppressed  or stole home grown fossil fuel industries in asia. Who knew first oil industry was in Burma where it seeped to the surface in an area whose name basically means “smells shitty around here”. 
>  He also goes into cosiderable detail on the scale of the refugeee problem that is likely as glaciers continue to melt and snowpack fails. The asian focus alone is mind expanding.
>> On Jan 11, 2018, at 8:24 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Looks like I'm going to read it too. Thanks all. 
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>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 9:30 PM, Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Nice interpretation of this fine book. Once again, I recommend it highly, and think that readers here on the list would appreciate it.
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>>> On Jan 10, 2018, at 9:00 PM, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:
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>>> The Great Derangement
>>> I am about halfway through after jumping about in the book including looking ahead at the final paragraphs. His ideas are constructed slowly and cumulatively and they revolve as much around how literary traditions have shaped( and mis-shaped) modern thought as they do on science. The science of global warming is a given in this book apart from specific regions of the globe and how scientists predict the effects of climate change will impact those places.
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>>> Allan. There is definitely no easy hope.  Ghosh in many ways joins other writers who hope persuasiveness and clear thinking will make a difference, But I would say the core idea of his book is that modern ideas about catastrophe are a kind rare anomaly  which have come relatively recent in human history embedded in the strong emergence of the science of probabilities and reaffirmed in “realist literature”. He believes that because these ideas about  the unlikeliness of catastrophic realities are not intrinsic to human culture,  their reversal to a  kind of communitarian position of 'this is real; we are in deep shit and better act', is still possible. Along those lines he summons everything from the Gaia hypothesis to neo animism to show that modernist ideas are not settled reality. I have not finished but this is how I read him so far.
>>> I find his thinking about the the blinders imposed by our inherited modernist myths is profound  and presented with a dispassionate calm and careful writing that is engaging, persuasive, and even charming.  But my agreement to his basic approach may be obvious from my own  posts about the topic of global warming and the need  it imposes for a radical change of mind.
>>>  I think a Mark Twain quote is relevant.
>>> “It is easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.”
>>> as a character in a play once said” aye, there’s the rub.”
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>>>> On Jan 3, 2018, at 9:20 AM, Allan Balliett <allan.balliett at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> Please spoil it for me, Keith
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>>>> Where does he find Hope?
>>>> 
>>>> ALLAN in WV
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>>>> On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 9:08 AM Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> The Great Derangement is well worth checking out, IMHO. Mr. Ghosh’s report on the climate crisis manages to be enlightening, terrifying and hopeful all at the same time, and, of course, his writing is consistently beautiful and his research impeccable.
>>>> It would be interesting to see what some of you think of it.
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