NP: For Your Consideration

Smoke Teff smoketeff at gmail.com
Wed Jan 17 13:17:40 CST 2018


Might note the writer Monte quotes is John Le Carre's son.

Do you find him/that book worth reading beyond what you bring to our
attention here, Monte?

On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 12:49 PM, Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at gmail.com> wrote:

> Distressing to folks with fine musical ears, when digital came along.
> Saving their old 33s.  Still wanting to mess with Mr. Inbetween. A longing
> for the Infinite, to change gears.  Einstein vs quantum mechanics, maybe.
>
> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 12:59 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> "Decline" of interstices?  That's a whole 'nuther subject that could be
>> cool, but more likely depressing.  We NEED interstices.  The Greeks always
>> had Dionysus.
>>
>> David Morris
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 11:25 AM Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Didn't the decline of the interstices probably begin back with the
>>> ancient Greeks, Thales or somebody, who started using logic to describe the
>>> world? Before that there was nothing but interstices. As it were.
>>>
>>> Then, there's fuzzy math and fuzzy logic David's post reminds us of.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 12:12 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> VERY nice...
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 11:53 AM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Interstices" is a ripe word, full of meaning.
>>>>>
>>>>> Makes me think of fuzzy borders, stitches between fabrics, transitions
>>>>> between eras.  I think GRs Pynchon would call it the Zone.
>>>>>
>>>>> David Morris
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 10:46 AM Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I had a work friend once who was always saying his preference was
>>>>>> for  the interstices.  This was very long ago but I think it was something
>>>>>> like, in Pynchonian terms,  preferring the noise to the signal. Or maybe
>>>>>> the excluded middle. He had a very interesting mind. I wish I could
>>>>>> remember an example.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 6:40 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This line is within throwing distance of a terrif Pynchon line, imho.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Meaning is being made in the saccades and the interstitial spaces
>>>>>>> you ignore."  Even better than Jochen's pun, we get a new image of
>>>>>>> the real world's meaning  as not found on paper. Not in them there
>>>>>>> university press books. The real territory is in the holes in the map, so
>>>>>>> to imagine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, I had to look up 'saccades', didju?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  As above, so below.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 2:16 PM, rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dylan's Mr Jones was a bit more easy on the ear
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 5:44 PM, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don’t quite know who he is addressing
>>>>>>>>> or what are the miracles
>>>>>>>>> or when they begin
>>>>>>>>> otherwise it does seem highly insulting
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > On Jan 15, 2018, at 4:01 PM, Monte Davis <montedavis49 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > From Gnomon, by Nick Harkaway:
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > "You sit reading news that has nothing new in it, telling
>>>>>>>>> yourself that because you hold in your hand some glossy skeuomorphic
>>>>>>>>> lozenge you are technologically au fait, and that because you know where in
>>>>>>>>> the endless repetition of tribal politics and fairy dust economics your
>>>>>>>>> world is, or have consumed many of those books published in pale cream
>>>>>>>>> jackets by university presses, you are somehow informed about what is
>>>>>>>>> important.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > You are not. Meaning is being made in the saccades and the
>>>>>>>>> interstitial spaces you ignore. When the miracles begin, you will declare
>>>>>>>>> that the world has taken a great leap forward, and —wearing the amazed
>>>>>>>>> expression of a pantomime clown—you will quote Proust as tomorrow’s
>>>>>>>>> children make jokes that derive their humour from puns invoking senses you
>>>>>>>>> do not have. You will wear your bewilderment first as modish nostalgia and
>>>>>>>>> then as politically charged performance art, and finally as a proud, doomed
>>>>>>>>> ethical position whose idiot gravity you cannot escape. You will go to your
>>>>>>>>> grave protesting that everyone else has misunderstood. Oh, bravo. Bravo."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>> Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?listpynchon-l
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>
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