M & D Group Read (cont.)

Paul Mackin mackin.paul at gmail.com
Tue Jan 23 09:19:20 CST 2018


Another feature of the "chinaman" was the pigtail.
There was a schoolyard ditty about chopping it off, which I won't repeat.

On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 8:20 AM, Monte Davis <montedavis49 at gmail.com> wrote:

> TE> "lascivious Chinaman" is or was a stereotype
>
> There was a hint of it in Sax Rohmer's "Fu Manchu" thrillers of 1912-1959
> (!), mixed in with "white slavery": innocent English & American women lured
> into sin by opium. These days, since US troops cycled through the
> Philippines, Japan, S. Korea, Vietnam etc., the American pornosphere
> hypersexualizes Asian women and desexualizes Asian men. (Meanwhile, the
> supposedly dumpy, sexless women of the USSR have become the glamorous,
> pen-pal-seeking Sex Slavs seeking Western mates via the Internet.)
>
> I take the more general schema (see M&D's Company Seraglio) to be: *Every*
> ethnic group but our own is lascivious because it's either (1) more
> primitive, animal and uninhibited or (2) more ancient, over-refined, effete
> and perverse. Preferably both.
>
> On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 6:10 AM, Thomas Eckhardt <
> thomas.eckhardt at uni-bonn.de> wrote:
>
>> I gather from a quick internet search that "lascivious Chinaman" is or
>> was a stereotype, too. Is this present in today's readers' minds?
>>
>> Am 23.01.2018 um 10:46 schrieb Mark Kohut:
>>
>>> Which by this time is (one of) the stereotypical meanings.
>>>
>>> On 1/23/18, bulb at vheissu.net <bulb at vheissu.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Chinaman" in Against the Day; 3 occurences, all in an opium context:
>>>>
>>>> - AD One 8.1: 82 (no - and his opium)
>>>> - AD Two 16.1: 191 (Smoking opium with the -)
>>>> - AD Three 36.7: 496 (opium products [...] -)
>>>>
>>> -
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