AtD translation: rough-ins overlapping faster and faster

[Mike Jing]

That's very likely. Thanks for the reply.


On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 11:21 PM peterthooper at juno.com <
peterthooper at juno.com> wrote:
Could be a very rare instance of a Pyncho spelling discrepancy for "ruff"
where the copy editor had also missed the intent?

A bit of pointless speculation occurs to me about Pynchon's source for the
phrase being oral rather than written - as a known jazz afficionado, he
could've copped the phrase from a conversation with another around a
drinks-laden table, with fragrant vapors in the air, and retained it
slightly altered.

This video shows something that if repeated and accelerated could accompany
the suspenseful moment -

http://www.drumlessons.com/drum-lessons/drum-set-rudiments/drag-ruff/


---------- Original Message ----------
From: Mike Jing <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com>
To: Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
Cc: Pynchon Mailing List <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Subject: Re: AtD translation: rough-ins overlapping faster and faster
Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 22:17:42 -0400

I was wondering if it has something to do with "ruff", but I couldn't find
anything to back it up.

According to the OED:

ruff, n.8

1. *Music* (orig. *Mil.*). One of the ornamental rudiments of side drum
playing, consisting of three quick strokes followed by a fourth, producing
a light militaristic roll.



On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 10:17 PM Mike Jing <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I was wondering if it has something to do with "ruff", but I couldn't find
> anything to back it up.
>
> According to the OED:
>
> ruff, n.8
>
> 1. *Music* (orig. *Mil.*). One of the ornamental rudiments of side drum
> playing, consisting of three quick strokes followed by a fourth, producing
> a light militaristic roll.
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 8:13 AM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> A tough one. the compound phrase does NOT seem to be in the OED---but I
>> may have
>> wearied in trying to read with that glass all the follow-up nuances and
>> additions under "rough".( And do you know
>> how many columns there ARE for rough in the OED> Do ya?)
>>
>> Best google definition of a meaning in construction:
>>  Rough in plumbing is, as its name suggests, basically a “rough draft”
>> of your plumbing installation.
>>
>> So, Rough drumming is a thing, check it out, it means what you think it
>> does, as in rough draft basically,
>> so maybe the phrase is music slang for that happening?
>> A spontaneous drumroll where the drummer
>> keeps accelerating the drumming, overlapping the beats faster and faster
>> perhaps?
>>
>> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 4:11 AM, Mike Jing <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> P184.16-24   And there was the attraction known as the Dynamite Lazarus,
>>> where an ordinary-looking workhand in cap and overalls climbed inside a
>>> pine casket painted black, which a crew then solemnly proceeded to stuff
>>> with a shedful of dynamite and attach a piece of vivid orange fuse to
>>> that
>>> didn’t look nearly long enough. After they’d nailed down the lid, their
>>> foreman flourished a strike-anywhere match, ignited it dramatically on
>>> the
>>> seat of his pants, and lit the fuse, whereupon everybody ran like hell.
>>> Somewhere a drummer began a drumroll that grew louder, rough-ins
>>> overlapping faster and faster as the fuse burned ever shorter—
>>>
>>> What are "rough-ins"?
>>> --
>>> Pynchon-L: https://waste.org/mailman/listinfo/pynchon-l
>>>
>>
>>