Kennedy Ice- up for grabs

[David Morris]

Jody,

It's the Constitution we have. And the part ain't gunna get changed, ever
(though I dream of a parliament-style tweak).  But even so, Trump was
elected shy just 3 million popular votes, not 52/1.  But it was a nice rant.

David Morris

On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 7:00 PM jody2.718 <jody2.718 at protonmail.com> wrote:

> Hey Becky-
>
> I did think about you when I picked North Dakota to compare with
> California, re: the crazy way the Senate over compensates for majority
> rule. And that 11 y/o granddaughter- that couldn't be the "child of the
> storm" born in the wake of that F5 twister, could she be? If so, I'm
> getting old way to fast.  Thanks for responding.
>
> But no, I'm totally sympatico with the farmers of North Dakota, especially
> in juxtaposition to the agribusiness giants gobbling up farms that have
> been in families for generations- an American Tragedy supplanting The
> American Gothic:
>
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Gothic#/media/File:Grant_Wood_-_American_Gothic_-_Google_Art_Project.jpg
>
> My aim was to indicate how the Trumpublicans are undermining democracy by
> using the Senate to allow minority rule and frustrate the will of the vast
> majority of the country, including many fair-minded folks in "red" states
> who voted for democrats, or even moderate leaning republicans who ccould't
> be heard in their own party. Trump does not care about North Dakota except
> as a means to a very bad end.
> But more people in rural states need to realize that his policies, wrapped
> in a sheep's clothing of pseudo-concern for their fears of being forgotten,
> are endangering their environment, and way of life.
>
> jody
>
>
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> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> On Thursday, November 8, 2018 6:12 PM, Becky Lindroos <
> bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> > If elections go to straight popular vote (or equal population ratios for
> states), who’s going to bother even listening to the concerns to any rural
> area, much less visiting? Will farm policies count anymore? Will
> commodities and farm land be heavily taxed - drop all those stupid
> subsidies to farmers? (Well, duh, who cares? Their scattered votes don’t
> count like the votes of millions of people concerned with prices and urban
> housing and transport.)
> >
> > Nowhere near all farmers are anything like big business - many barely
> get by with both mom and pop doing other jobs like teaching and equipment
> repair. The prices they get are pretty well determined by big business
> (grain and bean buyers). It’s coming though, big business farms will rule
> if enough big city people want to stop rural US from getting a vote which
> actually counts. (ironic heh)
> >
> > Note - I’m kind of on the fence about this, but my family has been
> involved in farming (North Dakota no less) one farm since 1876), about 6
> generations plus one growing up. It got divided up so it’s not a big farm
> now. Family farms tend to sell out after about the 3rd generation, but this
> one and many others like it haven’t! My daughter and son-in-law farm it
> (while working as a teacher and a mechanic). It would be so cool if my
> granddaughters decided try it. One might but she’s still only 11. lol -
> >
> > Becky
> > https://beckylindroos.wordpress.com
> >
> > > On Nov 8, 2018, at 6:19 AM, jody2.718 jody2.718 at protonmail.com wrote:
> > > The future is cute and cuddly, but every time grandma tries to grab a
> hold of the "little bargain" he just seems to melt away. The U.S. Senate,
> however, now there's a real bargain.
> > > North Dakota- pop., 755,393, and Two senators
> > > California- pop., 39,536,653, and Two senators
> > > Ratio- about 52 : 1
> > > In Senatorial Mathematics, each person from North Dakota is worth 52+
> Californians.
> > > Excuse me while I dust off my degree in rocket science, but in terms
> of power, why would anyone even bother trying to persuade the voting
> percentage of 39.5 million people in California to vote for them when the
> same effect could be had by persuading 2 percent of that many in North
> Dakota?
> > > 322,613 people voted in North Dakota for the senatorial race. In
> California, no senate seats up for re-election, but 7,140,132 people voted
> for the governorship. On a percentage basis the turnout was way higher in
> North Dakota- almost 43 % of the estimated 2017 population (hard to
> believe, actually), while in California, about 20% of the estimated 2017
> population voted for governor. Still, 51% of 322,613 in N.D. needed to
> control a senate seat, or about 165,000 votes, versus 51% of the estimated
> 7,140,132 voting public, or, about 3,641,500, in California- 22 times as
> many votes needed in California to control a senate seat.
> > > Where would you spend your money?
> > > "Does Dellman's sell Shoes?"
> > > [Population estimates- Wikipedia. Voting numbers- Washington Post]
> > > jody
> > >
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