NP but Charles Sanders Pierce, another genius, speaks.

Mark Kohut mark.kohut at gmail.com
Sun Dec 1 11:31:54 UTC 2019


C. S. Peirce
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Thus, the substance of a dream is not Real, since it was such as it was,
merely in that a dreamer so dreamed it; but the fact of the dream is Real,
if it was dreamed; since if so, its date, the name of the dreamer, etc.,
make up a set of circumstances /1
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sufficient to distinguish it from all other events; and these belong to it,
i.e. would be true if predicated of it, whether A, B, or C Actually
ascertains them or not. The "Actual" is that which is met with in the past,
present, or future.

On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 6:30 AM Kai Frederik Lorentzen <lorentzen at hotmail.de>
wrote:

>
> "Yes, sort of GERMAN, these episodes here. Well, these days Slothrop is
> even dreaming in the language. Folks have been teaching him dialects,
> Plattdeutsch for the zone the British plan to occupy, Thuringian if the
> Russians happen not to drive as far as Nordhausen, where the central
> rocket works is located."
>
> Gravity's Rainbow, p. 240
>
> Inspired by Beradt's book, the historian Reinhart Koselleck had a
> research program running on human experiences of time in times of terror
> & the methodological consequences for history science. Koselleck wasn't
> able to finish the overall project but there's an essay from the 1970s
> where his basic considerations can be found:
>
> Reinhart Koselleck: Terror und Traum. Methodologische Anmerkungen zu
> Zeiterfahrungen im Dritten Reich. Pp. 278-299 in R.K.: Vergangene
> Zukunft. Zur Semantik historischer Zeiten. Frankfurt a.M. 1979: Suhrkamp.
>
> The essay collection - "Future's Past: On the Semantics of Historical
> Time"  (NY 2004: Columbia University Press) - is available in English.
> Here comes the pdf:
>
>
> https://www.academia.edu/33539151/Futures_Past_On_the_Semantics_of_Historical_Time_-_Reinhart_Koselleck_2014_1985_
>
> The essay "Terror and Dream. Methodological remarks on the experience of
> Time during the Third Reich" can be found on pages 205-221.
>
> "Traumdarstellungen aus den Konzentrationslagern eröffnen uns einen
> Bereich, wo der menschliche Verstand zu versagen scheint, wo seine
> Sprache verstummt. Die konzentrationären Träume zeichnen sich durch
> einen rapiden Verlust an Wirklichkeit aus, während Wachträume
> proportional dazu zunehmen. Damit werden wir in einen Bereich gestoßen,
> in dem offenbar die schriftsprachliche Quellenlage unzureichend wird, um
> überhaupt begreifen zu lernen, was der Fall war. Wir werden auf die
> Metaphorik der Träume verwiesen, um sehen zu lernen, was wirklich geschah."
>
> (pp. 288-289, here quoted after the fourth paperback edition from the
> year 2000)
>
>
> Am 08.11.19 um 08:06 schrieb Mark Kohut:
> > https://twitter.com/NewYorker/status/1192490281687568384?s=20
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