NP Until the End of the World

[Mark Thibodeau]

I didn't get to his earlier, more sexually mature Dutch films until well
after having seen Robocop, Total Recall, Starship Troopers, and Showgirls.
So, yeah, "low"!

I do quite enjoy his films, though, so no, I don't consider calling his
output "low" (as in lowbrow) to be an unforgivable insult. I would be proud
to have films of the quality of Robocop and Starship Troopers on my own
resume, that's for sure!

As for Besson and von Trier, I am indifferent to the former, and revere the
latter.

Cheers!
yer old pal Jerky

On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 5:51 PM Thomas Eckhardt <thomas.eckhardt at uni-bonn.de>
wrote:

> Verhoeven "on the low"? But I think I know what you mean...
>
> "Starship Troopers" is still the most subversive film ever produced in
> Hollyood. It always reminds me of Laibach's "Geburt einer Nation":
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZAD7W3M4zc
>
> See also: Tom Secker and Matthew Alford, "National Security Cinema".
>
> Not a fan of Wim Wenders' movies, although I do not actively hate them
> like I hate Luc Besson's or Lars von Trier's...
>
> > At the time, in my early 20's, with my taste spreading, wet ink-like,
> from
> > a thick black line connecting the dots (Kubrick, Scorsese, Coppola, and
> > Herzog on the high side, Carpenter, Romero, Argento, and Verhoeven on the
> > low, with Cronenberg and Lynch straddling the two) leaking over to
> > Jodorowsky, Fellini, Bergman, etc, etc, etc, Wim Wenders (always paired
> > with Jim Jarmusch in my mind) seemed like the kind of fellow whose films
> I
> > should be checking out. And based on the back of the box, Until The
> End...
> > seemed like the kind of movie I would like.
>