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Jochen Stremmel
jstremmel at gmail.com
Sat Jan 5 15:02:33 CST 2019
I wanted to make a pun, to play with the words useful idiot, taking them
apart and turning them around, I confess.
But what brought me to it: Is there anything wrong with the piece he wrote
that Joseph did link to? What are the goals he's not aware of he's making
propaganda for in that article? He may have been a useful idiot when he
defended the Iraq war. (I'm not defending him, you see? I only want to know
what he did just now to deserve that judgment. Whose useful idiot is he
now?)
Am Sa., 5. Jan. 2019 um 16:26 Uhr schrieb Mark Thibodeau <
jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com>:
> I didn't call him an idiot. I called him a "Useful Idiot".
>
> In political jargon, a useful idiot is a derogatory term for a person
> perceived as a propagandist for a cause of whose goals they are not
> fully aware and who is used cynically by the leaders of the
> cause.[1][2] The term was originally used during the Cold War to
> describe non-communists regarded as susceptible to communist
> propaganda and manipulation.[1]
>
> In all fairness to Glem, he's probably not even that... but I choose
> to leave him a bit of wiggle room so I don't have to believe that he's
> a COMPLETE moral monster and philosophically bankrupt propagandist for
> a truly sinister and ascendant global conspiracy.
>
> As for who am I to judge? Just someone who's been reading this goof's
> stuff since the days when he was DEFENDING the invasion of Afghanistan
> AND IRAQ (ffs), as well as the worst excesses of Preznit Dubya's
> Homeland Security and T.H.E.U.S.A.P.A.T.R.I.O.T.A.C.T. legislation.
> Remember that?
>
> As to me being useless, I confess, it's true. I'll cop to that.
>
> Cheers!
> YOPJ
>
> On Sat, Jan 5, 2019 at 10:10 AM Jochen Stremmel <jstremmel at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > who are you to judge people perhaps at least as intelligent and useless
> as you?
> >
> > Am Sa., 5. Jan. 2019 um 13:11 Uhr schrieb Mark Thibodeau <
> jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com>:
> >>
> >> Ah, Glem Greenvalt...
> >>
> >> At least that Useful Idiot is never surprising!
> >>
> >> YOPJ
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 10:48 PM Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > MSNBC works for the deep state says one of its best veteran
> journalists.
> >> >
> >> >
> https://theintercept.com/2019/01/03/veteran-nbcmsnbc-journalist-blasts-the-network-for-being-captive-to-the-national-security-state-and-reflexively-pro-war-to-stop-trump/
> <
> https://theintercept.com/2019/01/03/veteran-nbcmsnbc-journalist-blasts-the-network-for-being-captive-to-the-national-security-state-and-reflexively-pro-war-to-stop-trump/
> >
> >> >
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