Also, just fyi
Jochen Stremmel
jstremmel at gmail.com
Sun Jan 6 08:35:16 CST 2019
There are clowns, and then there are clowns – I was thinking of a Stephen
King type of clown (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P61KghCuQcU).
Dollarwise? Found a quote by Rebecca Solnit: "Trump is patriarchy
unbuttoned, paunchy, in a baggy suit, with his hair oozing and his lips
flapping and his face squinching into clownish expressions of mockery and
rage and self-congratulation."
And I wouldn't regard somebody as dismissive of Russian effects on these US
if (s)he doesn't think they were responsible for getting Dollarwise the job
as your President. (Not to speak again of American effects on a host of
other states within the last 50 years – eternally grateful as I am for
these effects on Germany before that.) It's not as if we didn't understand
the reasoning or motivation behind these arguments. Was it not Robert
Redford who said something in the vein of: Trump is our President, our
responsibility? Another useful idiot? I think it a bit simple to declare
anybody who doesn't share your pov in these matters as that.
And between you and me: I really didn't want to say anything about that
subject anymore because obviously, as David said, the lines are drawn (a
bit differently than he thinks) – but I found it a pity that sb as bright
and compassionate as Mark T doesn't see that he is just as unsurprising as
the useful idiot he calls never surprising. Wouldn't it be better if the
P-list doesn't argue anymore about Trump and Putin, unless TRP makes them
topics of his prose or lyrics?
Am So., 6. Jan. 2019 um 13:21 Uhr schrieb Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com>:
> Rock’n Roll, man!
>
> Www.innergroovemusic.com
>
> > On Jan 6, 2019, at 4:10 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > The US President is far worse than "a clown", I suggest, to a man who
> > believes in the right words used in the right way. (But it may be just a
> > Plist throwaway word although I remember when I was judged for the same
> > tossed-off verbiage).
> >
> > I will send more on Russian interference in the US election of 2016, the
> > best work done on it, when I get it together but perhaps the case can
> > be made with simple logic.
> >
> > Tens of millions, maybe a hundred million Americans were reached, many
> > 'influenced' by actions that the Russian hackers did on Facebook, on
> > twitter in 2016.
> > One hacker trick was to go onto Facebook and schedule a Trump rally,
> place
> > and time, and others would 'join' and build and spread the enthusiasm and
> > PRESTO, there would be that rally, with the bot that started it now even
> > known about. Who can measure the effect in solidifying minds and bringing
> > out the vote?
> >
> > (In my state, a group movement to drive a polluting multinational out of
> > the County
> > rose to thousands faster than I can read and at meetings and rallies,
> > almost no one knows who started the group. Natural leaders emerge and
> > continue)
> >
> > Couple the above with the fact that Trump won with fewer than 100,000
> votes
> > out of three states, three bot-targeted states. Donald Trump will be
> > president thanks to 80,000 people in three states---Wa Po.
> >
> > We won't ever know what the Russians made happen at the US polls---and I
> > did not even go into anti-Hillary efforts by the Russians, which might
> have
> > kept the low turnout even lower.
> >
> > To be so dismissive of the possible Russian effects on these United
> States,
> > leads me to distrust many "political" judgments about the US of those who
> > are.
> >
> > As TRP said of the guy who argued in that NYC rag that he was J.D.
> > Salinger, "I didn't know of this newspaper but we need all the news we
> can
> > get. [Fed his jab at
> > the NYT's "All the news that's fit to print" [see *Anniversaries *as
> > counter-exemplum] ..."Keep Trying", he urged.
> > --
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