NP-Nicholas Winding Refn
rich
richard.romeo at gmail.com
Fri Jun 28 12:14:36 CDT 2019
it can be frustrating viewing at times but I saw it through till the end.
at times the thought in my head while watching was a quote from the
introduction of Hitler: A film from Germany: "who would want to make a film
about that?"
a doubt many will watch it. the subject matter being what it is but I think
its worth it
rich
On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 11:48 AM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> Did you watch the whole thing? Does it grow on you?
>
> On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 9:44 AM rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> amazon prime
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 10:33 AM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Where can this be found?
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 9:11 AM rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Refn has a new series (or a 13 hour movie if you like) called Too Old to
>>>> Die Young. Ostensibly a simple tale of a bent LA Sheriff and a up and
>>>> coming Mexican cartel boss it has wide and seemingly encyclopedic
>>>> references and influences: breaking bad, twin peaks, no country for old
>>>> men
>>>> (I think Refn could direct a version of Blood Meridian--more on that
>>>> later), Kill Bill/Reservoir Dogs, James Ellroy, Taxi Driver, Kubrick
>>>> (many
>>>> scenes are shot Barry Lyndon style--one in a Mexican whorehouse
>>>> resembled
>>>> scary paintings of Franz Von Stuck or Otto Dix). There are probably many
>>>> others.It's Weimar on the Best Coast, the end of the world, with
>>>> something
>>>> coming in the night i.e. fascism
>>>> The acting is stiff, with many long pauses. this is not a show for
>>>> dialogue
>>>> but of impressions, individual scenes are given their full time to
>>>> flower
>>>> (Refn and those he chooses to work with are masters of color, music, and
>>>> sound from insects at night, to rippling waters, to the scrape of an
>>>> axe on
>>>> concrete. the long pauses accentuate the violence and I'll warn all that
>>>> this is one of the most nihilistic shows out there--rape, incest, folks
>>>> burned and buried alive, mass murder, torture. one character surmises
>>>> the
>>>> rise of eroticized violence. there's plenty
>>>> I mentioned Blood Meridian--there is a character called the High
>>>> Priestess
>>>> of Death, born out of the desert, who becomes an integral part in the
>>>> rise
>>>> of the young cartel boss. She is the Judge-like character, the seed of
>>>> destruction and the central pivot. everything revolves around her. she
>>>> is
>>>> frankly terrifying, even to those she's in with. Women sing narcocorrido
>>>> type praises to her as a defender of women. It's hard to take your eyes
>>>> off
>>>> her.
>>>> There are many wtf moments in this show--the denouement of a pair of New
>>>> Mexican pornographer brothers, in particular. Barry Manilow plays a
>>>> part.
>>>> Some of these scenes with these guys are hard to watch, but there's
>>>> many of
>>>> them I'm afraid.
>>>> Not many in this show is even vaguely sympathetic or honorable:The LA
>>>> Sheriff's office are fascist keystone cops, fathers lust after
>>>> daughters,
>>>> brutal mothers cocktease sons, women are brutalized, men take advantage
>>>> of
>>>> the weak or other men, women entice men to commit murder justified or
>>>> not,
>>>> men's lives are forfeit for a few thousand dollars.
>>>> In a nutshell, it all leads to the belief that only through catastrophic
>>>> violence will innocence be born. and while one cringes from much of
>>>> what is
>>>> depicted over these 13 hours, the slow pace, the dismal circumstances,
>>>> the
>>>> at times half-assed buffoonery, flippancy of style and wealth, I do
>>>> have to
>>>> admit it makes its points well. Let's hope it isn't our future
>>>>
>>>> rich
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