The Plague

[Jochen Stremmel]

Are there estimates how many of the 30 millions were Trump voters?

Am Sa., 20. Juni 2020 um 15:00 Uhr schrieb Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com
>:

> About 30 million Americans, it is estimated, have been in the streets in
> the last
> few weeks.
>
> The Revolution is here.
>
> On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 8:49 AM ish mailian <ishmailian at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > How does one choose the US? Elections don't work. Even Sanders was
> > and is a democrat and voting for the democrats (Biden and his band of
> > corportist war mongering idiots) is not a vote for the US. Or for us,
> > if us is "We the People" and we are the working classes in this
> > country.
> >
> > So Revolution. The STREET. We need a movement of the multitude. Maybe
> > we have one. Chomskey doesn't think so and is advocating we get out
> > the vote for the lesser of two evils.
> >
> > But maybe the brilliant old goat is wrong. We may have a movement  and
> > it will gain force and force more than a few racist statues to the
> > junkyard and a holiday, more than a check in the mail and low interest
> > rate loans, more than a promise that the police won't shoot you for
> > taking a jog, more than we believe She was raped but we don't believe
> > Her or Me Too because Joe is a good guy, even Lindsey Graham says so.
> > Maybe Capital is in trouble with unemployment set to remain high for a
> > long time and lots of young people with pent up demands for change,
> > not business as usual, not the democrats or the two evil parties that
> > have resembled each other more and more for decades to the point where
> > we can't tell Joe Biden from Sanders from Mitch McConnel. No, really
> > they are pretty much the same. 45 has strengthened the resolve to get
> > rid of 45, but replace him with Joe and maybe a Blacl female with Law
> > Enforcement on her resume. No, man. That's not good enough. This is a
> > time for big changes and the political structure needs to be taken
> > down. There is deep division about how that gets done. The democrat
> > supporters are willing to toss everything out to get 45 out, but that
> > won't do much. And there is so much to get done and now is the time to
> > get it done.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 4:57 AM matthew cissell <mccissell at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Howdy all,
> > >
> > > First, I hope you are all well and finding things to celebrate in
> > otherwise
> > > dark and trying times.
> > >
> > >  If like me you avoid preaching to the converted and refuse to waste
> time
> > > trying to convert those believers of bad faith, then you may have
> watched
> > > recent events with the feeling that you are on that bus with a mad
> driver
> > > and no way to stop it or get off. But perhaps it's time to be more
> vocal,
> > > not shouting, but something.
> > >
> > > Let me explain. We all know that Trump is very ignorant. I mean no one
> > > really believes that he wrote that Tweet about "when the looting
> > > starts...", remember he has his little Goebbles 2.0 behind him. The
> > > propaganda and actions are bothering me more and more. It's this
> > > authoritarian playbook that they are using. Can you think of a massive
> > > protest where state security forces were brought in from other regions
> to
> > > bust local heads? If you thought Tiananmen Square that's understandable
> > but
> > > Trump and Barr did the same thing by using Texas prison guards to beat
> > East
> > > coast protesters. Was that not noted in the media?
> > >
> > > If it were that one incident... but no. Now we also have the Antifa
> > > boogeyman being brought out. This is the same thing that was done in
> the
> > > 1920'S and 30'S. The media jumped on board and communists were seen as
> > the
> > > threat. The reality is that fascists and their bedfellows killed more
> > > people than the communists. This is a narrative that must be checked
> > before
> > > it gets further.
> > >
> > > And now the inverted red triangle. This is a bridge too far. Trump must
> > be
> > > called what Robert Paxton saw him for and now Masha Geesen also
> > recognises:
> > > he is a fascist. Let the facts talk.
> > >
> > > My fear is that as his situation gets worse and those that have tied
> > their
> > > fates to his begin to worry, they will grow more desperate. "We will
> > either
> > > be great victors or great criminals." They will either try to cancel
> the
> > > election or subvert or otherwise try to steal it as in the past.
> > >
> > > As the Lincoln Project says, it is time to choose the US or Trump. That
> > > simple.
> > >
> > > Signed
> > > Concerned Preacher, aka MC Otis
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