Rambling around plague topic (what would Pig Bodine do?)

Raphael Saltwood PlainMrBotanyB at outlook.com
Mon Mar 16 06:13:34 UTC 2020


Thanks for the kind words!

Neil Cassady somewhat in terms of houndishness in the sexual dept, but the way Kerouac portrays him anyway he’s a working man, a brakeman, a factory hand, a washer of dishes (though concupiscently “googing around” - which I just now got that it might have been a typo for “goofing“ in my high school paperback - with Mary Ann in the dishwashing scene) relishing the rhythms and movements of manual labor - and a would-be thinker/poet, who doesn’t convert homo-erotic urges into violence; although he does a lot of car thefts I can’t think of any altercations involving Dean Moriarty and anyone, the closest even to a disagreement is the urinal scene in _On the Road_ and he gets sad, not mad...though his abandonment of Sal Paradise in Mexico is pretty passive-aggressive...

Pig Bodine might accommodate a niche in a military, but it’s hard to picture him in a civilian role due to said bellicosity (which I still think is a key theme in V., Pig at home in the Navy but a menacing outsider in civilian life, and Benny oblivious and slightly uncomfortable in either) or in an intellectual one despite his quoting Sartre on identity.

But Bannon, yeah, might not be a perfect analogue. He’s more of a Goebbels media guy type though.


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From: Gary Webb <gwebb8686 at gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2020 1:59 PM
To: Raphael Saltwood <PlainMrBotanyB at outlook.com>
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Subject: Re: Rambling around plague topic (what would Pig Bodine do?)

I love this!

Viruses are stultifying and mysterious...as dominant in our knowledge we’ve become in the 20th - early21st century, there are still these weird things that exist outside the established five “kingdoms” of life...

The problem with statistics is who does the counting and how they do it... as the 2008 mortgage backed securities as well as 2016 national polls showed... its easy to propagate error, and incorrectly measure reality... computers, while big data shows promise in this field, still are just Rain Man counting pennies in a preset jar...

I love that Tim Leary quote! And it might have manifested itself in the sense that Japan’s Corona numbers are mysteriously low...

Lol I’ve always thought of Bannon as less as Pig Bodine and more of like “Bloody” Chiclitz or Marjor Marvy... Pig, in my opinion, is more like the old Non-PC Counter Culture. I see him as something of a Neal Cassidy type... Bannon is an old Goldman guy, after all...

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> On Mar 15, 2020, at 1:30 AM, Raphael Saltwood <PlainMrBotanyB at outlook.com> wrote:
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> https://www.longdom.org/scholarly/viral-immunity-journals-articles-ppts-list-1099.html
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> First line of defense is one's own immune system - zooming out, isn't it true (I think I read somewhere) there are more viruses wandering around all over the place than all the critters put together and viruses predate them all.
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> So like logically in a scientific sense, they are proto-life, little strings of genetic material not yet hopeful monsters - aspiring to be hopeful monsters - "idiots studying to be morons" - no offense, viruses and virus-lovers.
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> Like, the creation abounds with chemicals and energy - well, anyway it seems like a lot to me but after listening to Khan Academy videos about astronomical distances and time frames, it's clear that there's a whole lot more nothing (as Crowley once wrote, "nothingness with twinkles. But oh! such twinkles!")
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> But in this fortunate solar system with a solar power source and then all the chemicals being subjected keep combining in different ways to constantly change and at this point we, the people, the crown of creation, exist as exemplars of many of the interesting things that can be made of stuff...
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> But human cells are outnumbered even in a human body by other organisms, and even human DNA contains long sequences that originated when pre-primate life forms incorporated viruses and passed them on, and although this accretion has slowed way down in terms of viruses earning or inveigling a special place in the genome, we never actually got rid of a bunch of them.
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> So, virus qua virus is not an unfamiliar element in the environment; and Mother Nature will probably keep popping them out - it's human life that's relatively new and unfamiliar on this globe. One of the givens of human life is that there are more and less desirable outcomes for the individual, and large scale apoptosis is firmly in the "undesirable" column.
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> Since the same biological co-operative logic that led to human creatures also led to a social order that has spawned the ability to study various phenomena, including the apparently ceaseless cascade of new viral varieties, I for one would like to take a moment to be grateful for the opportunity to incorporate reasonable precautions suggested by those in the know (a new form of hepcat) and to learn more about these things we share the planet with.
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> The goal would seem to be to avoid becoming overwhelmed by the virus, but it's pretty inevitable to encounter it eventually. As I view statistics, even more than economics, as the dismal science, it's with some reluctance that I take and recommend measures that keep one out of the groups most likely to succumb -- wouldn't it be great to be the one who got exposed, developed immunity, and passed it on? But the way to do that isn't so clear. Until one has a greater probability (darn statistics!) of success it's probably best to take reasonable  precautions, eh?
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> That said, wondering about various Pynchon characters and their immune responses.
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> Would Pig Bodine have become a prepper? Would his Harley now be garaged in a complex in Idaho, near a stockpile of vitamins and canned food? Or would he still be heedlessly scouting the gene pool and social milieu for one night stands and picking fights? In "Lowlands" he appears to have either demobbed or gone AWOL long term. Pushed into theory, I might opine that he's an archetype of that place and time with interesting applicability to this day & age - "what shall we do with the drunken sailor?" The human characteristics of bellicosity and promiscuity, the id, fitting in a certain way into Benny Profane's circles of friends, the military and the civilian world. Pig himself is ensconced within V., but a character *somewhat like* Pig, well, Steve Bannon springs to mind. He's a phenomenon, but clearly not a role model.
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> The other Pynchon character that springs to mind is of course Takeshi, who even mentions his "immunity" as a trait that helps him in his quest, his career, of karmic readjustment. Why does he have immunity, and from what? Bear with me, please: I think that his mostly positive outlook allows him to travel among the glum and revenge-obsessed Thanatoids and turn their thoughts into more positive channels. His resemblance to Brock Vond, the standard-bearer for official repression, is no accident. His commercialization of redress-seeking fulfills the need better than law enforcement. (As W.E.B DuBois noted, the best way to change culture is to use economic power.) Although Timothy Leary once called Japan the most advanced culture on earth, shows like "Babies of Wackiness" militate against taking that undiluted: it's not only his nationality, but his enlightened Boddhisattva approach that earns him his immunity, IMHO.
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