not P. Gaddis

[David Morris]

OK.  But I think it's plausible that Pynchon's Whole Sick Crew was modeled
after Gaddis's.

On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 5:19 AM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:

> Yeah. Your timing is off. The Recognitions was published in 1955, written
> over a decently long say-it-all-in-one-great book time for Gaddis
>
> Andy was still doing Tiffany windows in 1961, still a 'commercial'
> artist making it in NYC. 60-61 were good years, 60 better. He bought a house
> uptown.
>
> The art that was Gaddis' target was Abstract Expressionism, the emphasis
> on abstract. An art movement that ignored
> human recognition for the sake of art for art's sake. Color, form,
> patterns only, one might say, he might have said, and I'm sure a deeper
> Gaddis reader will correct me if that isn't accurate enough.
>
> But more it is about the art critics who made that movement credible and
> monetarily valuable. And the whole lesser circle that thrived
> off their words, not being able to recognize art themselves anyway. I
> think.
>
> Another meaning to the word, as I remember the novel, is that in the way
> back time, Roman times in Gaddis's case, I think, we knew
> ourselves clearly but the modern age had led us to lose that recognition.
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 8:58 PM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Years ago I got about halfway thru The Recognitions.  It lost me in its
>> depiction of its Pynchon-like whole sick crew. As such, I never dove deep
>> into its questions about original Vs copied artwork.  Am I wrong to suspect
>> Warhol was his target?
>>
>> David Morris
>>
>> On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 6:32 PM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> https://twitter.com/sarahw/status/1256726554748628992?s=20
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