Just because

Mark Kohut mark.kohut at gmail.com
Sun Dec 12 10:44:15 UTC 2021


I say Pynchon puts into this great novel EVERYTHING we do not know about
9/11.....that is one
reason it is a great 9/11 novel.....That is one reason why all the stupid
refutable 'theories' are never presented postively (if at all)..

I can't wait until we get to the silence in NYC after the attack....which
impressed more than a few of us, me, Morris, I remember, others I can't
remember, I'm sure,  because who else in all "the 9/11 novels"caught that?
I was there that week, felt the silence but never saw it as TRP did because
he's a genius.

Here's one thing that grows in my mind about *Bleeding Edge* re 9/11:
Bleeding Edge is 'about" 9/11 by not being about 9/11. By that, I mean, it
is
the undescribed hole in the center of a novel all about the world to 2001
September and after. To me, an analogy can be drawn to TRP's
penetration of American history without ever doing The Civil War....Talk
about resonant 'ambiguity'.....

On Sun, Dec 12, 2021 at 2:56 AM Michael Bailey <michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Just because someone had mental health issues and/or killed themselves
> doesn’t mean they were wrong about everything.
>
> He was a cop, which takes a certain amount of fortitude. The CIA did find
> him employable although he didn’t accept.
>
> There was a legit concern about Promis.
>
> The CIA was indeed involved in dealing coke.
>
> IJS, not all of the stuff on Rupert’s website is wrong.
>
> Not all of the 9-11 doubt is instantly dismissable.
> Not all has been refuted point for point.
>
> A lot of refutations fill the gaps between objections they can easily
> counter with ad hominem, and then never deal with other ones but claim
> completeness.
>
> But, I’m not pushing that myself.
>
>  Back in the dark days of the naughts, I liked to compare versions & the
> official one always seemed to suck & to try to justify killing a bunch of
> foreigners whom *nobody* claimed had anything at all to do
> with it, and Halliburton making a bunch of money.
>
> (Even if every word of the NIST is true the US military used that as an
> excuse to lurch into action, killing orders of magnitude more people than
> 9-11, and for what? Those folks are certainly as worthy of mourning, and
> outrage, if you’re into that, imho.)
>
>
> The disbelievers in “official” version, however, almost always seemed to
> have fucked up affiliations and/or something off about their feng
> shui…except maybe Stephen Jones, the cold fusion guy who retired from
> Brigham Young U, his objections were interesting and he seemed like a good
> guy…
>
> As Willie Nelson said, there’s nothing I can do about it now. Reviewing
> 9-11 from time to time, like JFK material, is good reminders of history and
> actually generates a bit of nostalgia, which is fucked-up, isn’t it?
>
>
> Wikipedia is actually pretty kind to Ruppert. They mention that he gave
> over 9-11 stuff in favor of music, towards his final days.
>
> Lots of people have done themselves in - that doesn’t make it a crime to
> quote them, does it, if they said something interesting?
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