Just because
David Morris
fqmorris at gmail.com
Mon Dec 13 15:19:57 UTC 2021
https://nomoremister.blogspot.com/2021/12/relax-problem-is-just-one-guy.html
Above is a link to a story about the extreme harassment of two pole workers
by viewers of Fox News. Numerous Fox show hosts an anchors repeatedly
“raised questions” about what they purport was misdeeds by two pole workers
in Georgia during the 2020 election as Fox relentlessly pushed the “Big
Lie” conspiracy:
Reuters recently reported
<https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclusive-two-election-workers-break-silence-after-enduring-trump-backers-2021-12-10/>
on
the harassment two Georgia poll workers have experienced ever since video
was made public purportedly showing them committing electoral fraud during
2020 ballot counting. (In fact, they were counting ballots correctly.)
Death threats from angry Trump supporters forced Georgia election worker
Ruby Freeman
<https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/kanye-west-publicist-pressed-georgia-election-worker-confess-bogus-fraud-charges-2021-12-10/>,
a 62-year-old grandmother, to flee her home of 20 years. Some messages
called for her hanging; one urged people to “hunt” her. Freeman showed
hundreds of menacing messages to police and called 911 three times.
Sean Hannity started his show <https://www.mediamatters.org/media/3982976> off
with coverage of the video, claiming the “mysterious suitcases” were
“filled, we believe, with ballots” and that “partisan election observers
[were] asked to leave the room.” ...
Next, on *The Ingraham Angle* <https://www.mediamatters.org/media/3915951>,
host Laura Ingraham played footage of Freeman and Moss that included
narration from Jacki Pick claiming workers “mov[ed] into action and begin
scanning ballots” and saying they acted “once everyone [was] gone, coast
[was] clear.” ...
*On the December 4 edition of Fox & Friends
<https://www.mediamatters.org/media/3915991>**, correspondent Griff Jenkins
reported that the claims had been refuted by state election officials*, but
the hosts continued to push <https://www.mediamatters.org/media/3915986> the
conspiracy theory, with co-host Ainsley Earhardt saying, “How about those
suitcases that were pulled out from the table in Georgia?” Co-host Brian
Kilmeade responding, “It’s pretty hard to dispute that there’s *something
going on that needs some explaining.”... *
*America’s Newsroom <https://www.mediamatters.org/media/3915961>* *followed
with yet another report from Jenkins, who explained that the claims were
investigated and shown to be untrue.* Again, the hosts
<https://www.mediamatters.org/media/3915966> undermined this evidence,
playing the clip from the previous night’s *Hannity*where Moss was singled
out on video. Guest and Wall Street Journal columnist Bill McGurn responded
to the video, saying he thought “Sean’s right in the sense that it* raises
real concerns*.” ...
During that night’s prime-time slate, guest host Trace Gallagher led off *The
Story* <https://www.mediamatters.org/media/3982982>* with a report on the
video, stating that a “senior source in the Georgia secretary of state’s
office [told] Fox News that the claims had been ‘investigated and debunked*’...
Later, during a panel discussion
<https://www.mediamatters.org/media/3916141> on the video, Gallagher said
[Trump legal consultant] Martin “*made a good point”* in claiming that the
video was “debunked in a heartbeat — very quick to debunk this thing
without *really taking a good look* at all this and talking to all the
witnesses involved.”
So the strategy repeated used for days was to report that an official
investigation showed that the pole workers didn’t do anything wrong, but
then repeatedly say that, from the Fox News host’s perspective, this “still
needed to be looked at” and that the videos still “raises real concerns,”
and ”things still needed explaining.”
So all it takes is to “raise questions against established facts and say
the truth still “raises concerns” or it “still needs explaining” and then
the doubts can remain and fester forever.
David Morris
IOn Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 5:55 AM Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
> Michael,
>
> I am sorry but this fade to black does not work imo. it ignores the reality
> of what happened and by whom.
> It ignores that certain actions were taken that would have been taken if
> PNAC did not exist.
> It ignores international law and concepts of just and unjust wars.
>
> Just because I sometimes go walking as the sun comes up does not mean the
> sun comes up because I do.
>
> Mark
>
> "9-11 was used to justify a whole bunch of things the PNAC wanted to do.
> The confluence of *easily predictable* effects of 9-11 with the
> desires of PNAC is nearly total.
> The confluence with any kind of gain for the box cutter perps and
> their supposed cause is nil.
> So regardless of who did it or what they believed, they might as well
> have been working for PNAC."
>
> On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 1:19 AM Michael Bailey <
> michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > This exchange occurred between myself
> >
> > >* I or better informed people with better imaginations could make up
> > dozens of ways to do a controlled demo on the sly.
> > *>>* No solid evidence afaik. There I agree with you.
> > *>
> >
> >
> > And David Morris>* Yes. You, all of you, could also go drop acid and
> > really take off
> > *together. Imagination completely unchained! Yipeee!
> >
> >
> > But I don’t know them well enough to drop acid with them.
> >
> > Plus, psychedelics and even weed usually render me mostly nonverbal,
> > which makes it difficult to share conspiracy theories.
> >
> >
> > 9-11 was used to justify a whole bunch of things the PNAC wanted to do.
> >
> > The confluence of *easily predictable* effects of 9-11 with the
> > desires of PNAC is nearly total.
> >
> > The confluence with any kind of gain for the box cutter perps and
> > their supposed cause is nil.
> >
> > So regardless of who did it or what they believed, they might as well
> > have been working for PNAC.
> >
> >
> > Just like the Chicago 7 might just as well have been provocateurs -
> > I’m not convinced they weren’t - considering how they discredited a
> > large peaceful antiwar movement and made reactionary politics seem
> > less unreasonable. It’s not unreasonable to say they and their cohort
> > gave Nixon the Presidency in ‘68 by making a shambles of the
> > Democratic Convention. Yippie movement offered about as much cogent
> > policy as Maga.
> >
> >
> > Or the doofus who lit the Reichstag fire I think claimed to be an
> > anarchist, but he might as well have been a Nazi.
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