BEg2 chapter 8: Child of countless trees/child of boundless seas

Tue Dec 14 15:05:27 UTC 2021

What Allen said.....I was going to post about ages to work in NY state and
city but Allen crushed it with everything. Everything.

On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 8:26 AM Allen Ruch <quail at shipwrecklibrary.com>
wrote:

> I take this to be exaggeration, not some illegal/Epstein situation. I know
> that Maxine characterizes Cassidy's age as "south of anything legal" and
> says, "She's twelve," but I think that's typical Maxine exaggeration, like
> the "hair of an orchid shade not on any map of the human genome," etc.
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> In 2001, the age of consent in New York was 17. Here's the evidence that
> makes me believe Cassidy is actually in her early 20s. Cassidy has multiple
> tattoos, which you can only legally get at the age of 18. She mentions that
> she goes to frequent clubs, which means she'd have to have identification
> showing she's 21. And she also has/had a job at a graphic design company,
> which implies she's out of, or at least on the late stages of, college.
> (But certainly out of high school.) So I'd say she's in her early 20s. And
> having known people in their thirties who have dated people in their early
> twenties, a common joke/criticism is, "What, she's/he's like <insert wildly
> inappropriate age>?" So I certainly don’t take Maxine literally here.
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> Now, yes I know: you can find tattoo artists who will overlook the age
> restriction, you can get a fake ID, and you can get a job while still in
> high school, even at a professional design company if you have the right
> connections. But all of those together? Seems unlikely for me. Also, if
> this really were a Lolita situation, I really don't think Momma Maxine
> would be so casual about it! Maxine may not have the best moral compass,
> but that's hard to overlook. Nor would Lucas have been so eager to send
> Maxine into the bathroom to meet Cassidy. If he were sleeping with a
> sixteen-year old (or younger) girl, I would suspect he'd try to hide that
> awful shit, rather than bring her to a diner to break up with her and then
> ask an adult woman with one foot in law-enforcement to check up on her.
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> This does not absolve Lucas from his cad-like behavior of giving a false
> name, etc. But I don't think he's some Judge Roy Moore-like monster.
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> I hadn't thought of possession to explain Cassidy's "forces."
> Interesting....I need to look deeper ono Pixie Colman... I don't think she
> claimed any esoteric inspiration for her work on the Tarot deck, but she
> was a member of the Golden Dawn...
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> —Quail
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> PS: One of my favorite Dead songs
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> https://www.dead.net/song/cassidy
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> On 12/14/21, 4:50 AM, "Pynchon-l on behalf of Joseph Tracy" <
> pynchon-l-bounces at waste.org on behalf of brook7 at sover.net> wrote:
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>     > On Dec 13, 2021, at 4:56 AM, Michael Bailey <
> michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com> wroteLucas & Cassidy - “better start paying
> her royalties” see this is Maxine
>     > flexing. She has some clout.
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>     I have been wondering about this whole scene  in a rather different
> way because it implies that Lucas may be a very shady character. He is,
> legally speaking, raping ( statutory is bull) an underage girl from whom he
> got a key component of his part of Deep Archer.  He is lying to her about
> his name. Also why was Lucas at hwgaahwgh ? I thought he was the graphics
> dude getting generous help from the world of hackers and gamers and open
> source. No earlier mention of him having this connection.Is Maxine going to
> follow up on this?  Also it gets creepy in another way “Did you have any
> kind of a contract with Lucas, Kyle, whatever?”
>       "“No and I wasn’t doing it out of love, either. Hard to explain. It
> was all just coming from somewhere, for about a day and a half I felt I was
> duked in on forces outside my normal perimeter, you know? Not scared, just
> wanted to get it over with,…” She says if she came to it now she would like
> to apply javascript public void close which I need help to understand, but
> sound like some knd of impairment.Basically it sounds like black magic or
> posession. She is being used and perhaps by more than Lucas.
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>     Frankly this sounds like 2 aspects of Jeffrey Epstein. The connection
> to rape of underage girls and his connection to Promis, Robert Maxwell, and
> that whole rabbit hole.  Anyway to me Lucas looks way more fishy this time
> around.
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>     With Inslaw out of the way, Brian sold the software all over the
> world. Eitan later recruited Robert Maxwell to become another Promis
> salesman, which he did remarkably well, even succeeding in selling the
> software to Soviet intelligence and conspiring with <
> https://www.wrmea.org/003-september/book-review-robert-maxwell-israel-s-superspy.html>
> Republican Texas Senator John Tower to have the software adopted by the
> U.S. government laboratory at Los Alamos. Dozens of countries used the
> software on their most carefully guarded computer systems, unaware that
> Mossad now had access to everything Promis touched…..a few years after
> Epstein’s release from prison following his conviction for soliciting sex
> from a minor in 2008, Barak formed a company with Epstein with the chief
> purpose of investing in an Israeli start-up then known as Reporty. That
> company, now called Carbyne, sells its signature software to 911 call
> centers and emergency service
>     Israeli media reported that Epstein and Barak were among the company’s
> largest investors. Barak poured millions into the company and it was
> recently revealed <https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog-july-11-2019/>
> by Haaretz that a significant amount of Barak’s total investments in
> Carbyne was funded by Epstein, making him a “de facto partner” in the
> company. Barak is now Carbyne’s chairman <https://carbyne911.com/team/>.
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