Late capitalism a quote

Mark Kohut mark.kohut at gmail.com
Fri Dec 24 14:49:58 UTC 2021


Yes, and that indicates how the union is only in it for the union....not
the humans in it......most orgs fail in Pynchon
it is a safe generality to make.....

On Fri, Dec 24, 2021 at 9:46 AM rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:

> I still find it interesting no one from the union shows up to Webb's
> funeral. as Reef says 'fuck'em'. I like when Pynchon throws in those little
> nuances
>
> rich
>
> On Fri, Dec 24, 2021 at 9:21 AM David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I think Rich’s take on ease and pragmatics proves true as presented by
> > Pynchon when you examine the case of Webb Traverse in ATD.  Webb starts
> out
> > a truly likable guy, but still die-hard anti-owner/pro-labor,
> > criminal-activist who parts ways with his youngest son over a dispute
> about
> > principles.  But over the course of the book, things change…  including
> > Webb.  I’ll get back to you all about the nature of that change in ATD,
> but
> > it shouldn’t be surprising to anyone that Pynchon doesn’t see these
> things
> > in B&W.
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 24, 2021 at 8:48 AM rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> you all blame capitalism like you blame religion, state, technology or
> the
> >> matrix. easy to offload all that angst onto a concept. maybe it makes
> you
> >> feel better but nothing changes, does it? most of us dont want radical
> >> change. the simple matter is whatever we live in provides to most. that
> >> may
> >> be hard to stomach. but it's true. prophets are the biggest hypocrites
> >>
> >> rich
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Dec 24, 2021 at 12:04 AM Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> > This topic came up earlier and I just found this quote in conversation
> >> > about Igor paying Maxine for warning about Madoff pyramid scheme.
> Madoff
> >> > had a Pynchonian name without even trying. One of Madoff's kids was
> at a
> >> > school where I teach an evening  art class . Very hard on him.
> >> >
> >> > March
> >> > “No, I meant late capitalism is a pyramid racket on a global scale,
> the
> >> > kind of pyramid you do human sacrifices up on top of, meantime getting
> >> the
> >> > suckers to believe it’s all gonna go on forever.”
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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